New Poll- Grading Company (or not) of choice... [Archive]

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11-27-2006, 10:40 AM

Posted By: leonPlease take a look at the new poll and place your vote. I believe this new, formal poll, is the best way to get a feel for what everyone really thinks, that is on the board, or lurking, without having a "bash" party. I think most realize what the outcome might be but this will show us in black and white. I won't lock this thread but PLEASE NO BASHING. This idea came from an email I got. There is a concern it will instigate bashing but I told my right hand guy that it's part of the game....so anyway, we'll see...regards

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11-27-2006, 11:10 AM

Posted By: Jeff PriznerGood poll, but kinda tough for me to answer b/c it really depends on the card. For example, I like all my T3's in PSA holders b/c I think the SGC ones are too large and the T3 PSA pop reports are already well established. I like my Exhibits in SGC holders b/c I think the black/white cards look amazing framed in black (especially the borderless ones). I prefer my oddball stuff raw b/c I don't plan on ever selling and truly don't care about the limited value on these so I don't see the point of getting them graded.

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11-27-2006, 11:35 AM

Posted By: DavePSA....mistakes galore....but I'd rather have my stuff PSA slabbed

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11-27-2006, 11:39 AM

Posted By: barrysloateI just put my vote in and it is totally predictable, including a fair percentage going for raw cards, also predictable. I'm not sure this poll will tell us anything we all already don't know. Perhaps the degree of how much each company is liked or disliked will be the only surprise.

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11-27-2006, 01:48 PM

Posted By: SeanFor my high grade trimmed cards I go PRO everytime; but I love SGC and the black boarder for everything else. Sean BH <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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11-27-2006, 01:49 PM

Posted By: Billy StairPretty easy IMO.... I prefer SGC for PC stuff but for resale it has to be PSA (most of the time) Bill

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11-27-2006, 02:02 PM

Posted By: DarrenWhoever votes for PRO must identify himself.

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11-27-2006, 03:02 PM

Posted By: E, DanielSGC

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11-27-2006, 03:06 PM

Posted By: leonGiven this boards biases I knew this would be a foregone conclusion. What the person that emailed me brought up is that there might be a swell of lurkers that aren't normally included in discussions and they could vote a different way than regular participants. My guess is they might not vote either though. I did want to see the actual numbers too, if nothing more than out of curiosity.....ALSO, this poll should really be answered according to grading of Pre-WWII cards.....I should have clarified that..

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11-27-2006, 03:27 PM

Posted By: David VarghaAgreed, as many like me prefer SGC for pre-war and PSA for post-war (for the most part). DavidVargha@hotmail.com

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11-27-2006, 04:14 PM

Posted By: ScottIngoldI'll be the oddball by saying i like GAI for my own collection. I think Mike and Danny are two of the good guy's and have gotton steller service from them. Even a little guy like me seems to be treated well. But...... I recently reuped with PSA. I still think they are a distant 3rd in terms of standereds and openness. But when it comes to selling they still bring the best ROI. My vote's.... Gai = 1 Psa = 2 But if i switched my personal stuff it would be to SCG. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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11-29-2006, 02:41 PM

Posted By: MVSNYChmmm...seems like there are so many people on this board who bash graded cards...yet, according to the new poll, only 12% of you prefer "raw" cards...interesting...

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11-29-2006, 02:55 PM

Posted By: joe brennan Agreed, as many like me prefer SGC for pre-war and PSA for post-war (for the most part). Ditto People said it was a million dollar wound. But the government must keep that money, cause I ain't never seen a penny of it.

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11-29-2006, 03:08 PM

Posted By: T206CollectorI'm surprised by the poor showing of GAI, that is running neck and neck with BVG with 6 votes a piece. Could it be that PSA and SGC for pre-war need to be referred to as the "Big 2", and GAI and BVG should only be considered as marginal grading companies for pre-war cards? This poll is excellent as is, but should be redone every 6 months to a year, to see what trends develop. Obviously, PSA has lost some market share here, but not nearly as much as I would guess GAI has lost over the past few years.

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11-29-2006, 03:25 PM

Posted By: Bill StairI still have no idea how BGS can get any love. They only know about the latest chrome super whatever or the game used garbage that killed modern cards. Bill

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11-29-2006, 04:19 PM

Posted By: Ricky YAll my holdered cards are either in PSA or SGC. I have agreed and disagreed on grading from both companies...but who hasn't? I do like them both in general. From the design standpoint..I prefer SGC on vintage (pre war) stuff (the black back ground really looks good on my pre war exhibits) while I like the clear look of PSA holders in the post war stuff. If I like the grade and the price..I wouldn't hesitate to buy GAI but have not acquired any yet. Not bashing but constructive criticism...PSA do need to get rid of those "condom" type wrappings on odd sized cards like the caramels to prevent them from moving around. I have been fortunate, both companies have had excellent communication and customer services regarding my submissions...I like PSA's email updates on status. I haven't had any delays in shipments from either PSA or SGC, whether the order was large or small. I had one card described incorrectly with SGC..one phone call..and they said just send it back to us and we'll make it right... and a week and a half later... they had my card reholdered with the correct description. Ricky Y

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11-29-2006, 06:06 PM

Posted By: MikeUI have to imagine the BVG votes are primarilly or completely coming from Beckett employees. I am a bit surprised at the lack of votes for GAI.

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11-29-2006, 06:12 PM

Posted By: WesleyGAI still has the best holder in the industry (notwithstanding their earlier problems with loose gaskets). In terms of preference though, I would go with PSA for all postwar cards and the more common sets (T206s, Goudeys, etc) for which PSA has custom holders. For other more obscure sets, I tend to go with SGC.

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11-29-2006, 08:10 PM

Posted By: Chris CountsI buy graded cards for one reason only, and that is to buy undergraded cards. In this regard, I prefer PSA because their grading standards are the most inconsistent. I've managed to find a number PSA 1 "gems" for reasonable prices simply because they were slabbed ... I do like the GAI slabs the best, though. Too bad they were such flakes the only time I tried to use their services ...

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11-30-2006, 04:31 AM

Posted By: AnonymousAnd why would GAI be any better then BVG? To be honest from what ive seen, and i have HOF T206's sitting in BVG holders, BVG is tougher then GAI has ever been on pre-war. Plus ive never had a card holstered with them move around in the holder and risk any new damage to the card. That being said when it comes time to sell no one can touch psa, atleast for the time being with pre war.

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12-01-2006, 01:47 PM

Posted By: JudgeDred2This is a good poll. There are a few surprising elements like: <ul> <li>Who would have thought that more people like PSA than PRO... ok, just kidding but the difference between the PSA and SGC numbers was a bit surprising. I figured that most people prefer SGC to PSA but this poll pretty much gives the "board" opinion of the two grading services. <li>I was surprised to see so much lack of support for GAI. Overall more people are pretty much entrenched to either PSA or SGC so in the end it's not too surprising. <li>I can only guess that the people that selected PRO were joking. </ul>