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11-14-2006, 07:46 AM
Posted By: <b>Dave</b><p>Just got this on ebay, and curious if it will grade with PSA or not, by the way, i know it would only grade a 1 if anything<br /><img src="http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l111/asphaltman76/scan0006.jpg"><br /><img src="http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l111/asphaltman76/scan0002.jpg">

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11-14-2006, 07:50 AM
Posted By: <b>Steve M.</b><p>so I would be reasonably sure it would get a PSA 1. I'm not sure the cost of grading is worth it though.<br /><br />Edited to say that I take back my last sentence. It is a Southern Hindu and I overlooked the value therein.

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11-14-2006, 07:53 AM
Posted By: <b>RayB</b><p>Dave,<br />If it measures up within reason it looks like a gradeable card, albeit grade Pr-Fr PSA 1.<br />RayB

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11-14-2006, 07:54 AM
Posted By: <b>Dave</b><p>That my hope, if measures close enough, looks quite worn (obviously). My understanding with the brown hindu being 4x the value, that I may break even, would like a brown hindu on my registry and thought this may be the cheapest route. Was $51.

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11-14-2006, 08:53 AM
Posted By: <b>steve f</b><p>There was an SGC 10 E98 Wagner in worse condition, sold on ebay few days back. nice pu

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11-14-2006, 09:35 AM
Posted By: <b>barry arnold</b><p>This card should grade a 1.<br />I noted last night when perusing ebay that the seller indicated that<br />the Hindu is worth 4X the value. I do think this is one of those 'truths'<br />that needs to be evaluated contextually. Because the card is in such poor condition, the quoting of thousands of dollars value (I can't remember the exact figure mentioned in the listing; wasn't it 4000 plus)due to Southern Leaguer status X 4 due to Hindu back is a bit over the top methinks. Granted<br />the reference is to high grade condition. (I'm not saying that the seller is<br />doing any intentional misleading; it's just one of those marketing dicta<br />which needs to be evaluated carefully.)<br /><br />I do think you are wise to be happy over the 51 dollar deal you got, as you are.<br />I'm just cautioning that these standards, such as the Hindu 4X, are not set in stone, particularly when the card is in poor condition. In fact, I think<br />we are finding that many of these multipliers need to be rethought since our<br />recent rethinkings of the back values due to Scot Reader's tome and other<br />pertinent research.<br /><br /><br />I do think that since the Hindus tend to make up only about 5%(still a sound number at this point,Scot?) of the SL<br />backs, you have found quite a good prize there which you should be very<br />pleased about and which will hold quite a distinctive place in your registry.<br />When we realize these pieces of good news, then the monetary value pales in<br />import anyway methinks.<br /><br />all the best,<br /><br />Barry

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11-14-2006, 09:41 AM
Posted By: <b>Dave</b><p>As long as it grades I'm happy. Most cards in this condition I'd just as soon send to SGC, but doing a PSA set registry, wouldn't do me a whole lot of good. It is by far the ugliest of the 13 cards I have so far (a whole 2%) of my goal. But yes, it being a Southern Leaguer and particarly (I'm an engineer, cant spell) an Atlanta player was intriuging as I'm from Atlanta.

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11-14-2006, 10:06 AM
Posted By: <b>S Gross</b><p>Dave,<br />Personally, I think it's a great card, with a great back, at a great price. Back when I put my SL sub-set together (my first vintage endeavor, a long 5 years ago), I spent ~$200 for a Hindu back Manion in not much better shape than yours, and was very happy.<br /><br />Oh, by the way, it's spelled: <i>Purtecularily</i> ... <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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11-15-2006, 08:11 AM
Posted By: <b>Dave</b><p>A member has told me that the Southern Leaguers with a Hindu back can command a premium higher than the general rule of 4x a card. If that is the case, which I don't know...I'm assuming that wouldn't apply to this Smith card and the condition it is in. Either way I'm happy with $51 for it.