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11-03-2006, 12:35 PM
Posted By: <b>Rhys Yeakley</b><p>I have looked around a bit and cant identify this item. It is glossy stock, machine cut, completely vintage, and was found stuck to a scrapbook page with some Goudey Premiums. It is too long and narrow to be a Charles Denby (plus no advertising on the back) but is similar in composition and thickness. Anyone know what it is?<br /><br />Rhys<br /><br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1162499667.JPG">

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11-03-2006, 12:39 PM
Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>Schapira Big Show candy?<br /><br /><img src="http://luckeycards.com/peuncschapirabigshowcandyschalk.jpg">

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11-03-2006, 12:49 PM
Posted By: <b>Rhys Yeakley</b><p>The card I have is too large I think to be a Schapira, mine is 3.25 inches by about 5.4. The seller had one other from the set as well but I didn't get that one. I will try and figue out who it was. Plus I think this one was issued around 1933 or so.

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11-03-2006, 01:01 PM
Posted By: <b>fkw</b><p>My guess<br />R314B-1 (listed as "R314 type 3" in the 2007 SCD)

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11-03-2006, 01:02 PM
Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>You are right with those dimensions it's not a Schapira Big Show...but it looks similar, size not withstanding....

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11-03-2006, 01:08 PM
Posted By: <b>Rhys Yeakley</b><p>I have not bought the 2007 book yet so I cant look up the set Frank mentions and since it is not in the 2006 book, that might be why I cant find it. Does anyone have a scan of what a R314-3 looks like to compare to? Here is the other one that I was not able to pick up, it is Moose Solters and is similar in all other regards to the Dykes I have.<br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1162501974.JPG">

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11-03-2006, 01:24 PM
Posted By: <b>fkw</b><p>Here is 3 I have.<br /><br /><img src="http://members.aol.com/canofprimo/r314-3.jpg"><br /><br />The only reason Im not more certain the Dykes is a R314B-1 is the caption is white (I have yet to see a white caption in the short time Ive collected them), and the 2007 SCD says "kneeling" next to the Jimmy Dykes in the checklist (24 in the set).<br /><br />my cards are all exactly 3-1/4" by 5-7/16"<br />notice the bottom of my Whitehill and Trosky (and left side of Fox) have the same sliver from another photo as your Dykes does (slightly miscut).

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11-03-2006, 01:32 PM
Posted By: <b>fkw</b><p>Thats what they are, R314B-1. Solters is in the set too.<br /><br /><br />There is a good article on them in the Old Cardboard #7 issue (page 36) by Tim Newcomb.<br /><br />Tim helped me out earlier this year when I didnt know what these were. I bought the Whitehill and also had no clue what it was. They are also known as Goudey Borderless Wide Pens. Im my looking for them for close to a year, I have found they are fairly scarce.

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11-03-2006, 02:49 PM
Posted By: <b>Rhys</b><p>Thank You Frank. I appreciate your help in identifying this card.<br /><br />Rhys

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11-03-2006, 05:17 PM
Posted By: <b>joe</b><p>I have 3 of these all Detroit, Fox Portrait, Greenberg and Owen Portrait. There are 2 more Detroit players that I know of, Clifton Batting and Simmons W/Bats.<br /><br />Joe<br><br>Ty Cobb, Spikes flying!