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10-18-2006, 06:19 PM
Posted By: <b>dc</b><p>if you had 15k to spend on any pre-war card/s, what would you buy?<br />

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10-18-2006, 06:27 PM
Posted By: <b>peter ullman</b><p>i'd buy a babe ruth rookie!<br /><br />pete in mn

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10-18-2006, 06:32 PM
Posted By: <b>Russ Bright</b><p>Hypothetical question? or do you really have that much to spend? I'm about to have that problem. Money to spend and not certain what I want to buy.<br /><br />Personally, I'd pick up the T205 Hoblitzell No stats, a hindu and Drum back from the same set. Working on a Master set, and that money would get me there very quickly. Then I could focus on upgrading my current filler cards.<br /><br />Maybe some T3's always liked they way they look, but just a little unattainable at this point.<br /><br />There will always be something to buy if you have the money. I have no problem spending, i have a problem saving. Trying to balance collecting with the financial aspect is tough for me. The hardest part is selling what I spend the money on. Even if I can make a lot of money on a card, i'm reluctant to sell!

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10-18-2006, 06:36 PM
Posted By: <b>Hal Lewis</b><p>I would buy THIS rare as heck Honus Wagner card on MASTRO:<br /><br /><a href="http://www.mastronet.com/index.cfm?action=DisplayContent&ContentName=Lot%20Information&LotIndex=64026&CurrentRow=1" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.mastronet.com/index.cfm?action=DisplayContent&ContentName=Lot%20Information&LotIndex=64026&CurrentRow=1</a>

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10-18-2006, 06:38 PM
Posted By: <b>dc</b><p>real question - figuring out whether to splurge on one card or spread it over a few...a bunch of HOF t206 in presentable grade would get you there pretty quick, or do you get just one premium card in a nice grade (e90-1 jackson, m101-4 ruth, 1914 cj christy)

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10-18-2006, 06:40 PM
Posted By: <b>jP</b><p>i would just keep chipping away at the big monster. Get a cobb, jackson, ruth,weaver, and a wagner amongst many. i would love me a t212 buck weaver.

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10-18-2006, 06:44 PM
Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p>Fifteen thousand dollars worth of T3's, please.<br /><br /><br /><br><br>Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.

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10-18-2006, 06:46 PM
Posted By: <b>Hal Lewis</b><p>I was serious about the RARITY of certain old cards like the MINO Wagner and others.<br /><br />I think THOSE are the ones that will explode in value soon.<br /><br />Coupons, MINOS, KOTTONS, etc. will I think boom like the Caramel cards have.

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10-18-2006, 06:46 PM
Posted By: <b>Joann</b><p>The best condition T206 Cobb green $15K could buy, if I kept it to one card. If I spread it around, it would be an E107 Detroiter, N162 Brouthers, and mid grade Cobb caramel cards.<br /><br />J

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10-18-2006, 06:51 PM
Posted By: <b>Hal Lewis</b><p>I don't think you could get a 1914 CJ Matty for $15k any longer...<br /><br />unless it was so beaten that you wouldn't want it.<br /><br /><br />The Green T206 Cobb is always a safe buy.

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10-18-2006, 06:57 PM
Posted By: <b>Scott S</b><p>D304 Brunner's Cobb in a SGC50 holder.. How sweet!

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10-18-2006, 07:01 PM
Posted By: <b>Jeff Prizner</b><p>A T3 Cobb and a T3 Matty.

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10-18-2006, 07:05 PM
Posted By: <b>Steve Dawson</b><p>I'd get the best T206 Plank I could find. If not, then I'd go with the T3 HOFers I need and various N-card HOFers.<br /><br /><br />Steve

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10-18-2006, 07:12 PM
Posted By: <b>Brett</b><p>E93 Set<br />E94 Set in every colour<br />E97 Set including Black and whites<br />E98 Set of every colour<br /><br /><br />or e107s... like :<br /><br /><br />e107 Ed Delahanty or a Mathewson.

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10-18-2006, 07:14 PM
Posted By: <b>Hal Lewis</b><p>E107 Mathewson would cost FOUR TIMES more than $15k

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10-18-2006, 07:17 PM
Posted By: <b>Ryan Christoff</b><p>Hal, <br /><br />Where can you get an E107 Matty for 60k?<br /><br />-Ryan

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10-18-2006, 07:25 PM
Posted By: <b>Hal Lewis</b><p>I think a "beater" might come DOWN to that price!<br /><br /><img src="/images/wink.gif" height=14 width=14>

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10-18-2006, 07:27 PM
Posted By: <b>Scott T</b><p>All SGC Graded T206's (30's - "Good")<br /><br />Eddie Plank (Approx $10,000.00)<br />Ray Demmitt - St. Louis (Approx $1,500.00)<br />All Four Cobbs (Approx $2,500.00 total)<br /><br />Southern Leaguers - Bernhard, Foster, Lafitte, Shaugnassy, Stark (Approx $300.00 total)<br /><br />Christy Mathewson - Portrait (Approx $250.00)<br />Walter Johnson - Portrait (Approx $200.00)<br /><br />That's $14, 750.00. The remaining $250.00 would be used to pay my increased insurance premiums.<br /><br /><br><br>Scott <br />

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10-18-2006, 07:43 PM
Posted By: <b>scott brockelman</b><p>What is the next level lower? give me one with some eye appeal at 60K and I'm in.

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10-18-2006, 07:49 PM
Posted By: <b>dc</b><p>all great suggestions...thanks<br />can you still get sgc30 planks for $10k??? i thought i would be priced out<br /><br /><br />

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10-18-2006, 07:50 PM
Posted By: <b>anthony</b><p>I'd go with the 3 main cards left on my want list...<br /><br />'14-'15 CJ Joe Jackson<br />'11 Zeenut Buck Weaver<br />1895 Mayo Cap Anson

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10-18-2006, 07:55 PM
Posted By: <b>darren</b><p>I'd go for a Cracker Jack Cobb, 1933 Goudey Ruth, 1934 Goudey Gehrig, and an Allen and Ginter Anson.

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10-18-2006, 07:57 PM
Posted By: <b>Hal Lewis</b><p>34 goudey gehrig is indeed a fair priced classic

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10-18-2006, 08:09 PM
Posted By: <b>Steve M.</b><p>I'll spend 15K for:<br /><br />Obak Weaver<br />e100 Weaver<br />e99 Maggert<br />Z11 Bohen<br />Z11 Halla<br />Z15 McMullin<br /><br />That should just about do it.

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10-18-2006, 08:28 PM
Posted By: <b>Brett</b><p>Hal, i meant an e107 Mathewson in real ****ty condition. Beater condition, ripped, you name it !

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10-18-2006, 08:43 PM
Posted By: <b>Gilbert Maines</b><p>15K ain't going to come close to cutting it. Id have to make that 25K just about right away, so that Id have a little working capital. My 15K is going into high grade commons, whatever that group most likes. Perhaps some Goudey whats his names.

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10-18-2006, 08:53 PM
Posted By: <b>James Feagin</b><p>Funny, I just sold a card for 16K and now most of it's going to house improvements and travel <img src="/images/sad.gif" height=14 width=14> Grrrrrrrrrr.<br /><br />

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10-18-2006, 09:01 PM
Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>It would go towards rare cards that I need for my player set. Not sure I'd be able to pry a few of the cards away from people since a few of them have only a few known examples.<br /><br />Jay<br><br>I love pinatas. You get to beat the crap of something and get rewarded with candy.

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10-18-2006, 09:13 PM
Posted By: <b>JimB</b><p>SGC 20 Plank would probably go for over 20k.<br />JimB

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10-18-2006, 09:15 PM
Posted By: <b>Lee Behrens</b><p>I'd pay off my credit card debt. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />Lee

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10-18-2006, 09:19 PM
Posted By: <b>Cat</b><p>If you want to make a good investment AND have some nice card, I would:<br /><br />- spend $6,000 on a portrait Wagner such as a M116 or Tip Top Bread (there was a very nice Blue M116 a couple of months ago for $5,100 on EBay).<br /><br />- spend $5,000 on a respectable Cap Anson N172 portrait.<br /><br />- spend $4,000 on rare back cards (Hal's idea about the Mino Cigs Wags is right on. I had a chance on a Mino Cigs Wags [sgc 30] a few months ago but in the end another board member "won" it). <img src="/images/sad.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />________________<br /><br /><a href="http://www.audiocomedy.net/soundboards/jacket.shtml" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://www.audiocomedy.net/soundboards/jacket.shtml</a" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.audiocomedy.net/soundboards/jacket.shtml</a</a>>

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10-18-2006, 09:22 PM
Posted By: <b>Al C.risafulli</b><p>I don't think I'd go bananas with $15K in extra dollars for cards.<br /><br />I think I'd probably just sock it away and buy a bunch of $500-1000 prewar HOFers. <br /><br />-Al<br /><br />

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10-18-2006, 09:29 PM
Posted By: <b>Dan Koteles</b><p>ANy colored BOston Garters

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10-18-2006, 09:35 PM
Posted By: <b>peter ullman</b><p>On second thought...I'd probably get the awesome t4 melchoir on ebay right now setting a record for highest price ever paid for one!<br /><br />pete in mn

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10-18-2006, 09:41 PM
Posted By: <b>Steve M.</b><p>shameless plug <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br />da Z-Man

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10-18-2006, 10:06 PM
Posted By: <b>Glen V</b><p>My first 10K would cover the BIN on this <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> <a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/1911-D359-Rochester-Baking-Philadelphia-CHIEF-BENDER_W0QQitemZ220038720510QQihZ012QQcategoryZ868 41QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/1911-D359-Rochester-Baking-Philadelphia-CHIEF-BENDER_W0QQitemZ220038720510QQihZ012QQcategoryZ868 41QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem</a><br /><br />Maybe the left over 5K would be enough to win a cheap lot from one of the big auction houses...

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10-19-2006, 12:21 AM
Posted By: <b>Ryan Christoff</b><p>Just to keep things accurate, the "beater" E107 Matty sold for $90k, not $75k. <br /><br />Give me a beater E107 Mathewson over a T206 Wagner any day. <br /><br />-Ryan

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10-19-2006, 02:56 AM
Posted By: <b>bruce dorskind</b><p><br /><br />In our view the most efficient use of a "found $15k" would be to save it<br />for next April's Robert Edward Auction. There will be some very rare,in some<br />cases unique, and certainly very special items.<br /><br />The average baseball card/memorabilia lot brings well over $6000 in<br />the REA auctions, so if we are lucky, the $15k will help us to acquire<br />one or two bonus lots and/or pay the buyer's premium.<br /><br />Our alternative selection would be to purchase the E-93 commons<br />we need in PSA 8 and highest graded E-99 and E 100 Bishop type cards<br />available<br /><br />Bruce Dorskind<br />America's Toughest Want List

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10-19-2006, 04:31 AM
Posted By: <b>Eric Brehm</b><p>I would go for a batch of graded T206 HOFers in EX 5 or EX-MT 6. These are available every day on eBay from reputable sellers. I try to find ones that are well-centered with no wrinkles or other surface defects. A little corner wear doesn't bother me. When I see a card graded EX that looks like a NM-MT one, I usually suspect that a surface defect is present but perhaps not readily apparent in the scan.<br /><br />There are dozens of nice T206's being offered in the current Heritage auction, including a good selection of NM 7 and NM-MT 8 ones, but these latter have gotten quite pricey lately. And while the higher grade ones are certainly attractive, the EX and EX-MT ones for me have more 'character' and a more authentic feel relative to their age; I feel like they offer the best quality for the dollar.

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10-19-2006, 04:48 AM
Posted By: <b>Dylan</b><p>There are only seventy-six Hall of Famers (including Wagner and Plank) in the entire T206 set and minus the two mentioned you could probably pick up most of them in the 3 to 4 range

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10-19-2006, 09:12 AM
Posted By: <b>John Spencer</b><p>For me, it would be a T216 Wagner throwing with a Virginia Brights reverse. Of course, I am assuming that one exists, as I have never seen nor heard of one.

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10-19-2006, 09:22 AM
Posted By: <b>Hal Lewis</b><p>Agree John... that would be about the only similar card that is more rare than the MINO...<br /><br />but you are correct in that it may be so rare because it doesn't exist?

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10-19-2006, 09:36 AM
Posted By: <b>Jason L</b><p>After all this input, which way are you leaning?<br /><br />You could just give me the cash and I could get you something nice...like a couple of Pujols rookies and a Jeter autographed ball!<br />(insert smiling emoticon here)<br /><br />Honestly, the choices are endless, but if you are just starting out (your login is cardrookie), it would probably be more gratifying to spread it out and grab as much as you can (HOFers, a set or two, etc), but for investment purposes, the smartest thing to do is target one oft-desired card, in as nice a grade as you can, because they appreciate better and can be more easily unloaded later...<br /><br />I defer to the experienced board members for the specifics on targets...<br /><br />Jason L

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10-19-2006, 10:26 AM
Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p>the feedback has been fantastic...the diverse views just highlights what a great hobby this is...if anything, i'm more undecided than ever, but have at least got some excellent thoughts to go with<br /><br />i've always loved the plank, but trying to get one in my price range is almost impossible unless you get one that is nearly unrecognisable...also, given the rarity, i could be waiting forever before one in my price range comes up <br /><br />i think i'll end up spreading it with one desirable card (obak weaver, 1914 cj cobb) in decent grade, a rare back card in any grade, and a few t206 HOF portraits (cobb green, christy, johnson) in mid-grade<br /><br />will be sure to post details and pics of my purchases...in the meantime keep the posts coming and thanks to the board

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10-19-2006, 10:38 AM
Posted By: <b>Cobby33</b><p>Plastics.

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10-19-2006, 10:44 AM
Posted By: <b>Hal Lewis</b><p>Funny reference to Dustin Hoffman...<br /><br />or serious reference to plastic slabbed cards?<br /><br /><br />A "two-edged" joke!! I like it!

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10-19-2006, 10:47 AM
Posted By: <b>Cobby33</b><p>Hal- I missed the double-entendre in my own post! Still too early here on the West Coast...

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10-19-2006, 12:09 PM
Posted By: <b>Mark Evans</b><p>I would try and do business with Dan, assuming he's still got the holy grail. Mark

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10-19-2006, 12:31 PM
Posted By: <b>Joe D.</b><p>I would buy a couple of really nice PSA 8 T206 commons.<br /><br />just kidding <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br /><br /><br />I would probably call up JC and ask him to part with some of the incredible stuff he has. Probably would try to crack Leon's "Personal Collection" too.<br /><br /><br />

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10-19-2006, 02:19 PM
Posted By: <b>Jeff Drum</b><p>If you're not too late and your "real" lucky you might be able to pick up a significant portion of the "Mr. X" collection. <img src="/images/wink.gif" height=14 width=14>

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10-19-2006, 02:21 PM
Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>At the rate the prices/values are going I think I could pick up a common e97, in about a 40 holder, for about that <img src="/images/sad.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />The in demand stuff still seems to be skyrocketing....

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10-20-2006, 10:39 PM
Posted By: <b>Kenneth A. Cohen</b><p>Maybe if I ask real nice minister harold will knock $3K off his price.<br /><br /><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300036939097&indexURL=0&photoDisplayType=2#ebayphotohosting" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300036939097&indexURL=0&photoDisplayType=2#ebayphotohosting</a" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300036939097&indexURL=0&photoDisplayType=2#ebayphotohosting</a</a>>

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10-21-2006, 10:50 AM
Posted By: <b>Joe Tocco</b><p>I'd finish my mid-grade n162 set.