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10-16-2006, 10:24 AM
Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>I don't post too many of these, though I did post one a day or so ago, to give ample warning of the Headin' Home cards recently sold on ebay. If those cards have a dot pattern under magnification then they are not good. My guess, from seeing the larger scans, is that there was a dot pattern on them. <br /><br />Some board members are new and I'm doing this for the sake of them mostly....though, I admit that after some of these threads I have learned something new too. <br /><br />Here is a pretty good looking card. It has some telltale signs that aren't good....<br /><br />1. The card stock is too "bright".<br />2. The wear "coloring" looks fake as cards don't normally age more (in color) on the outsides...<br />3. Card is being sold "as is"<br />4. All saies are final.<br />5. I have never seen a card who's condition looks like this be real. <br /><br />These kind of sales can be good too, as I recently bought a Fro-Joy on ebay for about $26, and took the gamble. I got it and it's good. My guess is that the one in this auction won't have such a happy ending...again, could be wrong, but bid accordingly....<br /><br /><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/1928-1927-BABE-RUTH-60-HR-CANDY-BASEBALL-CARD-2-AUTHEN_W0QQitemZ150044322483QQihZ005QQcategoryZ317 19QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem" target="_new">http://cgi.ebay.com/1928-1927-BABE-RUTH-60-HR-CANDY-BASEBALL-CARD-2-AUTHEN_W0QQitemZ150044322483QQihZ005QQcategoryZ317 19QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem</a>
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10-16-2006, 10:33 AM
Posted By: <b>Paul</b><p>I know that Fro Joy well. I bid $25.00 on it <img src="/images/sad.gif" height=14 width=14> Glad to hear it checked out ok <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>
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10-16-2006, 11:11 AM
Posted By: <b>steve f</b><p> Leon, I greatly appreciate these threads on counterfeits and now confident I can sniff 'em out far easier since learning tons from the pro's here. Keep them coming.<br /><br /> Paul, The genuine FJ's are b/w, not sepia nor multicolor, and severly likely to be counterfeits. For that reason, I believe they are the most undervalued Ruth's.<br /><br /> Although I rec'd them from the original owner and they were unquestionably authentic, SGC and PSA both returned them reporting they don't slab <u>any</u> Fro-Joys. After giving up and thanks to the guidance of a member here, BVG did slab 'em. <br />
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10-16-2006, 11:48 AM
Posted By: <b>Paul</b><p>Steve, I was the member who emailed you on Ebay & told you about BVG. I have I think 10 Fro Joy's slabbed by PSA, SGC, & BVG. I have three Ruth Portraits, one PSA & two BVG. The only portrait card that gives me a warm fuzzy feeling is the one slabbed by PSA. Not because its PSA graded, but because of that gut instinct that develops over time. I now believe there are some excellent Fro Joy reprints out there that look good under a microspope, that are photo engraved with the vintage looking ink & cardboard. I'm not 100% sure that someone did somehow duplicate the vintage printing, but I think that's why PSA, SGC, & GAI stopped grading them.
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10-16-2006, 03:03 PM
Posted By: <b>Gilbert Maines</b><p>It appears that the seller may not realize that the card offered is not what he describes it to be.<br /><br />He has 352 positive feedbacks (100%), but only 142 are from sales, of which none are identifiable as pre-war.<br /><br />A knowledgable seller is a valued asset, while an inexperienced one is a hazard.