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09-28-2006, 07:19 PM
Posted By: <b>Jim Clarke</b><p>Here is the list I copied and paste from Fred's research. Since we always look for reason to show photos.. Why not try to complete this list... I'll start with Marty Bergen and Patsy Tebeau.. I never would believe that many people would take their lives like that...Surprised not more from the 30's... <br /><br /><br />From Deadball Era.Com <br /><br />1881: Fraley Rogers (31)....................Gun<br /><br />1889: Jim McElroy (26)....................Opium Overdose<br /><br />1889: Frank Ringo (28)....................Morphine<br /><br />1891: Ernie Hickman (35)....................Gun<br /><br />1894: Terry Larkin (?)....................Slit His Throat With A Razor<br /><br />1894: Edgar McNabb (28)....................Gun<br /><br />1896: Cannonball Crane (34)....................Overdose Of Chloral<br /><br />1900: Marty Bergen (28) ....................Slit His Throat After Killing His Wife And Two Children<br /><br />1903: WIN MERCER (28)....................INHALED ILLUMINATING GAS<br /><br />1904: DAN MAHONEY (39)....................Drank Carbolic Acid<br /><br />1907: CHICK STAHL (34)....................Drank Carbolic Acid<br /><br />1908: Reddy Foster (44)....................Shotgun<br /><br />1909: Nicholas Mathewson (22) MINOR LEAGUER....................Gun (CHRISTY'S BABY BROTHER)<br /><br />1909: HARRY PULLIAM (44) NL PRESIDENT....................Gunshot To The Head<br /><br />1910: ED STRICKLAND (26) MINOR LEAGUER....................Gun (AFTER SHOOTING HIS GIRLFRIEND FIRST)<br /><br />1910: CHARLES NELSON BROWN (?) MINOR LEAGUER....................Gun<br /><br />1910: JAMES PAYNE (?) MINOR LEAGUER....................Gun<br /><br />1910: DAN McGANN (39)....................Gun<br /><br />1911: RANDOLPH BLANCH (PENNSYLVANIA SPORTS WRITER)....................Gun<br /><br />1911: THOMAS SENIOR (32) MINOR LEAGUE UMP....................Gun<br /><br />1911: DICK SCOTT (27)....................RAZOR<br /><br />1914: CHARLIE WEBER (45)....................Gun<br /><br />1916: CARL BRITTON (40) MINOR LEAGUE PITCHER....................UNKNOWN<br /><br />1916: EDDIE HOHNHURST (31)....................Gun<br /><br />1918: NED EGAN (?) (MANAGER MILWAUKEE: AMERICAN ASSOCIATION)....................Gun<br /><br />1918: PATSY TEBEAU (43)....................SHOT HIMSELF<br /><br />1920: LOU MEYERS (60)....................STRYCHNINE<br /><br />1921: NOEL BRUCE (56) MINOR LEAGUER....................Gun<br /><br />1921: CLAY DAILEY (?) MINOR LEAGUER....................Gun (AFTER BEING CUT FROM THE LOUISVILLE TEAM)<br /><br />1921: ART IRWIN (63)....................JUMPED FROM A STEAMER INTO THE ATLANTIC OCEAN<br /><br />1924: WALT GOLDSBY (52)....................Gun<br /><br />1924: JOHN WAKEFIELD (?) MINOR LEAGUER....................UNKNOWN (AFTER AN ARGUMENT WITH HIS GIRLFRIEND)<br /><br />1927: DRUMMOND BROWN (41)....................Gun<br /><br />1927: BILL GANNON (50)....................DROWNING<br /><br />1927: DANNY SHAY (51)....................UNKNOWN<br /><br />1927: JAKE WELLS (63)....................UNKNOWN<br /><br />1929: TONY BROTTEM (37)....................Gun<br /><br />1929: JIM PRICE (60) SPORTS WRITER....................Gun<br /><br />1930: JOE LANNIN (60) FORMER RED SOX OWNER....................JUMPED OUT A WINDOW<br /><br />1930: JOHN B. SHERIDAN (61) SPORTS WRITER....................HANGED HIMSELF<br /><br />1930: ZEKE ROSEBRAUGH (59)....................Gun<br /><br />1931: CON LUCID (57)....................UNKNOWN<br /><br />1931: CARL SITTON (48)....................Gun<br /><br />1932: BILL GREY (61)....................Gun<br /><br />1934: PEA RIDGE DAY (34)....................SLIT HIS THROAT WITH A HUNTING KNIFE AFTER AN OPERATION FAILED TO RESTORE HIS PITCHING ARM<br /><br />1934: GUY MORRISON (38)....................Gun<br /><br />1934: CHARLIE DEXTER (57)....................Gun<br /><br />1934: SY SANBORN (67) SPORTS WRITER....................Gun<br /><br />1935: WALT KUHN (51)...................Gun<br /><br />1937: EMMET McCANN (35)....................Gun<br /><br />1937: BENNY FREY (31)....................CARBON MONOXIDE<br /><br />1940: WILLARD HERSHBERGER (30)....................SLASHED HIS THROAT<br /><br />1940: CHARLIE HOLLOCHER (44)....................Gun (SHOT HIMSELF IN THE THROAT)<br /><br />1941: RALPH WORKS (43)....................Gun<br /><br />1941: HARVEY HENDRICK (43)....................Gun<br /><br />1942: LYLE BIGBEE (48)....................Gun<br /><br />1943: CHET CHADBOURNE (58)....................Gun<br /><br />1945: BOB GANDY (51)....................Gun<br /><br />1945: HARRY McNEAL (66)....................Gun<br /><br />1945: HANK EIBEL (51)....................Gun<br /><br />1945: MORRIE RATH (58)....................Gun<br /><br />1947: FERDIE MOORE (51)....................Gun<br /><br />1947: LUKE STUART (55)....................Gun<br /><br />1948: JAKE POWELL (40)....................SHOT HIMSELF IN A POLICE STATION<br /><br />1948: BERT HALL (59)....................HANGING<br /><br />1949: TIM BOWDEN (58)....................Gun<br /><br />1950: JOHN MORRISON ALLEN (29) (SHORTSTOP: PORTSMOUTH / OHIO-INDIAN LEAGUE)...................UNKNOWN<br /><br />1950: WATTIE HOLM (48)....................SHOT HIMSELF AFTER KILLING HIS WIFE<br /><br />1950: FRANK PEARCE (45)....................Gun<br /><br />1951: HUGH CASEY (37)....................SHOTGun BLAST TO THE NECK<br /><br />1951: WALLY ROETTGER (49)....................RAZOR<br /><br />1954: SKEETER SHELTON (65)....................Gun<br /><br />1955: JIM OGLESBY (50)....................SHOTGun<br /><br />1956: LIMB McKENRY (68)....................Gun<br /><br />1957: FRED ANDERSON (71)....................SHOTGun<br /><br />1960: GIB BRACK (47)....................Gun<br /><br />1961: JOHN MOHARDT (63)....................CUT HIS FEMORAL ARTERY<br /><br />1961: GEORGE DAVIS (71)....................HANGING<br /><br />1962: FRED BRATSCHI (70)....................DRANK BATTERY ACID<br /><br />1962: OTTO MILLER (72)....................JUMPED<br /><br />1962: CY MORGAN (83).....................RAZOR<br /><br />1963: JOHNNY NIGGELING (60)....................HANGING<br /><br />1964: PAUL ZAHNISER (68)....................Gun<br /><br />1965: STAN PITULA (34)....................CARBON MONOXIDE<br /><br />1966: LEW MOREN (83)....................SLIT HIS THROAT<br /><br />1967: ART GARIBALDI (60)....................Gun<br /><br />1969: EMIL KUSH (53)....................CARBON MONOXIDE<br /><br />1971: MURRAY WALL (45)....................Gun<br /><br />1972: DEL BISSONETTE (72)....................Gun<br /><br />1975: DON WILSON (29)....................CARBON MONOXIDE<br /><br />1980: DAN THOMAS (29)....................HUNG HIMSELF IN JAIL AFTER BEING CHARGED WITH RAPE<br /><br />1989: VIRGIL STALLCUP (67)....................Gun<br /><br />1989: CARLOS BERNIER (62)....................HANGING<br /><br />1989: TONY LUCADELLO (?) BASEBALL SCOUT....................Gunshot Wound To The Head<br /><br />1989: DONNIE MOORE (35)....................Gun (AFTER SHOOTING HIS WIFE FIRST)<br /><br />1989: MIKE REINBACH (39)....................DROVE HIS CAR OVER A CLIFF<br /><br />1990: CHARLIE SHOEMAKER (51)....................Gun<br /><br />1991: JIM MAGNUSON (44)....................ALCOHOL POISONING<br /><br />1995: RON LUCIANO (57) FORMER AMERICAN LEAGUE UMP....................CARBON MONOXIDE <br /><br /> <br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1159406333.JPG"> <br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1159406361.JPG">

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09-28-2006, 07:21 PM
Posted By: <b>Todd Schultz</b><p>Harry Pulliam <br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/taslegal54/06fcpulliam.jpg">

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09-28-2006, 07:25 PM
Posted By: <b>Scott T</b><p>Dan McGann <br /><br /><img src="http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y133/scottopotamus/1909-1911%20T206%20Collection/316DanMcGann.jpg"><br /><br /><br><br>Scott <br />

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09-28-2006, 07:26 PM
Posted By: <b>Steve M.</b><p>Dan McGann<br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1159406754.JPG"> <br /><br />Chet Chadbourne<br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1159407003.JPG">

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09-28-2006, 07:31 PM
Posted By: <b>Ray</b><p><br />1941: HARVEY HENDRICK (43)....................Gun<br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1159407067.JPG">

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09-28-2006, 08:28 PM
Posted By: <b>Judge Dred (Fred)</b><p>JC,<br /><br />I copied and pasted the info directly from the deadball website. Not too much effort required.<br /><br />Interesting thread... here's a contribution:<br /><br />Mahoney and Irwin<br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1159410508.JPG">

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09-28-2006, 08:30 PM
Posted By: <b>Chris Bland</b><p>This might be the dumbest idea for a thread I have ever seen. Why stop at suicide? How about murderers, rapists, or anti-semites? Or better yet, lets see if we can find some autopsy photos!!!<br /><br />

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09-28-2006, 09:25 PM
Posted By: <b>Kevin Cummings</b><p>The late, great Charles "Chick" Stahl...<br /><br /><img src="http://members.aol.com/kkkkandp/chick.jpg">

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09-28-2006, 09:48 PM
Posted By: <b>Todd Schultz</b><p>I don't think it's a dumb thread. Poor taste and tacky, probably; disrespectful, possibly, but not dumb.<br /><br />When I contributed my Pulliam card, I figured it highly unlikely that any relative of his would read the thread and take offense. It occurs to me, however, that it's quite possible some of our forum members or readers may have suffered personal loss through suicide, or may have attempted it themselves, and that this topic could cause them pain. For that I am sorry, and I by no means intended to minimize the problems that others have faced.<br /><br />I do believe these men deserve to be remembered, and not ignored simply because of the way they met their Maker. I would hope that posters could include a link, antecdote or statistical blurb to go with any images. For my part, I always found Pulliam to be an interesting man who helped keep MLB together in the early volatile years when the AL and NL were being asked to coexist. I'm sure many of you know about him, but here's a link with a brief profile: <br /><br /><a href="http://www.baseballlibrary.com/ballplayers/player.php?name=Harry_Pulliam" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.baseballlibrary.com/ballplayers/player.php?name=Harry_Pulliam</a> <br /><br />If the whole concept of lumping these men together because of their tragic demises is too offensive, I understand and again, apologize.

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09-28-2006, 09:54 PM
Posted By: <b>Griffin's</b><p><img src="http://photos.imageevent.com/griffins/41redsharryhartmanw7112/qu41Reds015.jpg">

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09-29-2006, 07:26 AM
Posted By: <b>Jim Clarke</b><p>No disrespect was intended. I know I like to show cards whenever I have a chance to. Why buy these things if noone will look at them? I show my cards to my buddy when he comes from Florida, on my website, and on this forum. I think I look for any reason to show my cards now that I think about it. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> JC

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09-29-2006, 08:17 AM
Posted By: <b>Chris Bland</b><p>I came off a little too strong (maybe a lot too strong!) in my first post. I realize no one meant any harm - I apologize if I sounded like I was trying to be the "moral compass" of the board. Its a morbid topic, but it is a bit interesting, esp. in light of the T.O. incident...

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09-29-2006, 08:37 AM
Posted By: <b>Tom Boblitt</b><p>the morbidity.....you might check out......<br /><br />www.findagrave.com <br /><br />if you didn't know about it, you can see tombstones of many famous (and INfamous) people. Some of the guys in the thread above are there.......

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09-29-2006, 11:09 AM
Posted By: <b>Rhys</b><p>I find nothing wrong with this topic at all. (not intended toward Chris) but wanting to be sensative or politically correct is admirable, but the most strong desire to be so can only offset human interest and curiosity into this subject to a very limited degree. Every person in the word is at least slightly interested in the topic of death. That is why we ALL slow down to look at traffic accidents, we ALL would rather own a baseball card of Willard Herschberger than Shanty Hogan, We ALL would rather read a rivoting artcile on Marty Bergan than a boring biography of common 19th century backup etc. Shows like CSI are popular for a reason, we have a natural human curiosity and slightly morbid fascination toward death because the process of taking your own life and what is beyond it are unknown and the unknown always intrigues us. I think it also has the opposite effect of "being disrespectful". I find myself very sympathetic for the problems these men had and am so thankful I live in a society where mental and physical illnesses can be treated so much easier.<br /><br />I think starting a thread posting all sorts of Donnie Moore pictures would be slightly distasteful because there are thousands of people who knew him that might stumble on this forum. Posting pictures and retelling stories of men who were famous figures in America and died in interesting ways and did so over a half century ago is nothing more than an interresting topic for discussion.<br />

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09-29-2006, 01:42 PM
Posted By: <b>Bruce Babcock</b><p><img src="http://homepage.mac.com/thurber51/.Pictures/Fronts%20&%20Backs/T217%20Mono%20Cig.JPG"><br /><br />Another Chet Chadbourn.

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09-29-2006, 01:59 PM
Posted By: <b>Joe Jones</b><p><IMG SRC="http://www2.propichosting.com/Images/450016851/12.jpg">

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09-29-2006, 02:12 PM
Posted By: <b>Tom Boblitt</b><p>is right down the road from me in Cave Hill Cemetary, Louisville, KY. Also where Pete Browning is buried..........<br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1159474157.JPG"> <br /><br />and Colonel Sanders........

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10-01-2006, 01:00 AM
Posted By: <b>craig</b><p>here are 2 dm register photos i have of johnny niggeling, 1 from des moines the other im not sure.<br /><br /><img src="http://members.aol.com/feeticus/niggeling.jpg"><br /><br /><img src="http://members.aol.com/feeticus/niggeling2.jpg">

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10-01-2006, 05:12 AM
Posted By: <b>dmbbfan</b><p>here is a del bissonette as well.<br /><br />img src="<img src="http://members.aol.com/feeticus/bissonette.jpg">"&gt;

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10-01-2006, 07:27 AM
Posted By: <b>Andrew Parks</b><p>This topic is perverse. You are certainly free to talk about it, and I am certainly not offended but it's perverse.<br /><br />One poster said we ALL have a natural curiosity or fascination of death. I would like to respond with two points: 1) We ALL don't, and 2) That doesn't make it right.<br /><br />Why we are not permitted to talk about politics and religion, but are permitted to talk about the past ball players who committed suicide is something I have a hard time understanding.

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10-01-2006, 08:16 AM
Posted By: <b>Judge Dred (Fred)</b><p>Andrew,<br /><br />There you are, I haven't seen you posting for a while. Shoot me an email, your address isn't available with your post. I was going to send you an email a while back but I didn't know where to send it.<br /><br />

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10-01-2006, 10:18 AM
Posted By: <b>walkscott</b><p>Drinking battery acid? Yikes.<br /><br />'Unknown' suicide? How can someone determine you killed yourself, but not know how?<br /><br />I think an equally morbid, but interesting corollary would be to list the ones who killed themselves as the result of a baseball play. Donnie Moore came to mind, but since he killed his wife first (which I didn't realize), maybe it was something else.<br /><br />Death is always interesting - it happens to all of us and unless we give it a proper amount of thought, it's impossible to live our lives to their fullest. JMO

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10-01-2006, 10:36 AM
Posted By: <b>jay wolt</b><p>"Donnie Moore came to mind, but since he killed his wife first (which I didn't realize), maybe it was something else."<br /><br />If memory serves, not only did he shoot his wife first, he did the 2 fatal shootings in front of his kids<br />

earlywynnfan
02-05-2014, 02:34 PM
We need to add Jackie Price to this list.

Ken

Cardboard Junkie
02-05-2014, 03:53 PM
Climbing over a bar to attack a bartender armed with a 12 gauge is kind of suicidal.