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09-26-2006, 11:03 AM
Posted By: <b>Steve Dawson</b><p>Just got my Oct 6th issue of SCD and saw an announcement that Keith Olbermann will be writing an occasional column about vintage cards. The first one is scheduled for the Oct 13th issue, and will be about the N690 Kalamazoo Bats.<br /><br /><br />Steve

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09-26-2006, 01:29 PM
Posted By: <b>jeff drum</b><p>Now I can think of one reason to start reading it again.

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09-26-2006, 02:46 PM
Posted By: <b>Judge Dred (Fred)</b><p>It would be greatly appreciated if someone would scan and post any good articles.

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09-26-2006, 09:52 PM
Posted By: <b>Cobby33</b><p>I'd love to see his recent purchase history, outside of eBay.

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09-27-2006, 08:49 AM
Posted By: <b>John Kalafarski</b><p> Yesterday, Keith bid Phil Rizzuto a happy birthday on his show (he's 89, about a month older than my dad). For me, Mr. Olbermann's show is can't miss TV, and not just for the baseball touches.

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09-27-2006, 10:19 AM
Posted By: <b>Joann</b><p>I agree - "Countdown" is one of my favorite of all shows, not just news shows. There is a lot of very subtle humor, and of course the bb references are great too!<br /><br />Will look forward to seeing what he writes for SCD. I wonder if it will increase interest in vintage noticealby. There will surely be those that read his column, at least initially, because of the author and not so much the content. But the content may grow on a few of them!<br /><br />Joann

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09-27-2006, 10:52 AM
Posted By: <b>David Smith</b><p>Increase interest?? I hope not!! Isn't there enough people already going after vintage baseball items?? I mean prices are rising on almost everything and you want MORE competition?? The only way that is good is if you are planning on cashing out your collection.<br /><br /><br />David

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09-27-2006, 11:09 AM
Posted By: <b>Tom Boblitt</b><p>the Topps Turkey Red, Cracker Jack, 206 and 205 issues of the last 3-4 years have drawn more people than you think into vintage cards. The inserts/buy backs they did spur peoples interest. I also think the Heritage sets have brought some newer people into 1950's collecting. I'm fine with the 50's people but stay out of vintage everyone........shiny stuff is much better...<br /><br />Catch Countdown from time to time. If I can filter out all of his political blather, I can sometimes take him. I know it's not a hardcore news show and more Op-ed but he's farther left than O'Reilly is right. JMO.......

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09-27-2006, 11:32 AM
Posted By: <b>jeffdrum</b><p>A comedian (and a funny one) in the guise of a soft news guy. Not the first.

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09-27-2006, 11:44 AM
Posted By: <b>MVSNYC</b><p>"I'd love to see his recent purchase history, outside of eBay"...<br /><br />Is his eBay user ID public knowledge?

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09-27-2006, 12:06 PM
Posted By: <b>Pennsylvania Ted</b><p>Sorry guys, but KO's show is "way, way out".....beyond "Left" field. In fact they should<br /> play Twilight Zone background music when he starts going off on one of his conspiracy<br />episodes.<br /><br />And, why isn't he writing a column for OLD CARDBOARD ? <br /><br />Who reads SCD anyhow, anymore?

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09-27-2006, 12:27 PM
Posted By: <b>Judge Dred (Fred)</b><p>MVSNYC,<br /><br />Keith probably has a secret ebay account but he still uses the old one he used to use a while back. <br /><br />He used to post to this forum but I haven't seen anything written by him for ages now.

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09-27-2006, 01:05 PM
Posted By: <b>MVSNYC</b><p>was just curious...

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09-27-2006, 01:37 PM
Posted By: <b>Tom Boblitt</b><p>is his KNOWN ebay id. Not a huge amount of activity on it.

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09-27-2006, 01:42 PM
Posted By: <b>Ricky Y</b><p>I remember he used to pen articles in the old SCD. I recall the one he did on the T207 set.

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09-27-2006, 02:48 PM
Posted By: <b>John Kalafarski</b><p> He is funny and intelligent, but his politics are serious (thank God). He says some things that have needed saying for a long time. He even dropped in a subtle allusion to John Cleese's "Fawlty Towers" yesterday.

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09-28-2006, 12:09 PM
Posted By: <b>dan mckee</b><p>Yes please scan the articles, because I am not subscribing to that POS that is full of shiny crap!! BUT LEON, YOU WROTE ME AND SAID I WAS BANNED!!

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09-28-2006, 12:13 PM
Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>You're on a roll....keep it goin'......

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09-28-2006, 12:18 PM
Posted By: <b>Bob</b><p>He is always interesting, often humorous, and not, in my mind, out in "left" field. Just because he has the guts to say what sometimes needs to be said, no matter how controversial, doesn't make him a pariah. I have always enjoyed him, going back to his ESPN days. Yes he can be a tad arrogant but he is a breath of fresh air these days.<br />With regard to his articles, he also wrote some early articles for VBCC including articles in the find of previously uncatalogued T206s and uncatalogued variations of Obaks, not to mention the whole T206 Doyle NY fiasco and why he doesn't believe in grading companies. Interesting reading...

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09-28-2006, 12:47 PM
Posted By: <b>DJ</b><p>Dan is CORRECT! <br /><br />I don't even want to line by bird cage with the rag as I don't want to torture the bird with that "crappy" magazine. I do hope someone (or I will get someone to do it) will publish on this Forum the articles. <br /><br />I think Keith is great. I never miss Countdown and he is made a great deal of himself from his humble beginnings writing for Baseball Magazine to this. <br /><br />DJ

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09-28-2006, 02:16 PM
Posted By: <b>Mark Evans</b><p>I think Keith Olbermann is, first and foremost, a political commentator who does a very effective job of providing counterpoint to the conservative commentators who seem to predominate talk-media. His show is not balanced (all the guest pundits share his views), but I don't think it pretends to be. I think the sports coverage, while excellent, is clearly secondary and the show-biz coverage is for laughs. Clever and entertaining (imo), I wouldn't miss his show. Mark

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09-28-2006, 02:23 PM
Posted By: <b>Matt E.</b><p>Dare I say I am a subscriber to the SCD publication and Old Cardboard. First it was bad enough that I have to look at Mr. Mint's mug in each issue and now possibly Olbermann's political views. <br /><br /><br />Have to say I love his baseball talk and perspective on the game as well as the other sardonic blurbs on his show. He knows his baseball and his cards! <br /><br />However, when it comes to his politics I would rather watch the greastest newcaster ever rather than listen to his one sided comments. Sorry Keith. <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1159387529.JPG"><br /><br />Cue the music Pennsylvania Ted<br /><br />Just a reminder that Mr. Mint said he will never attend another National. That includes walking the floor Al.<br /><br />edited for spelling

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09-29-2006, 01:17 AM
Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>The two people I always watch on the news networks are Olberman and Lou Dobbs. Dobbs is the absolute best. He has balanced point-counter point people and he refuses to use politcally correct language, especially when it comes to the issue of illegal aliens. He is also a great champion of the middle class and boarder security. If it wasn't for him, I would have never known that Bush allowed port security to be sold to Dubai, a country known to support terrorism. I never heard about this on any other network or show.<br /><br />Jay<br><br>I love pinatas. You get to beat the crap of something and get rewarded with candy.

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09-29-2006, 05:50 AM
Posted By: <b>JimCrandell</b><p>Olberman is on the far left wing of the political spectrum and uses the show to promote his agenda. His abysmal ratings show it doesn't have much of a following.<br />Hopefully he will stick to cards in SCD.

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09-29-2006, 08:36 AM
Posted By: <b>Tom Boblitt</b><p>he's right in the pack with the rest of MSNBC. Not a highly watched network. Not a good decision for the faltering General Electric when they hooked that one up.......<br /><br />I definitely like Olbermann's wit. He and Dennis Miller and other guys of the like have great delivery and ability to land great tongue in cheek stuff. Just don't agree with his politics.

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09-29-2006, 08:43 AM
Posted By: <b>Al C.risafulli</b><p>I guess I'm one of the few here that became a fan of Olbermann as a result of his political commentary and not as a result of his sports or card articles. I've actually never read any of the card-related things he's written, so I'm looking forward to reading his stuff.<br /><br />-Al

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09-29-2006, 09:00 AM
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Keith and I have been casual friends for over 20 years, since he was a sports reporter up in Croton-on-Hudson. While I only watch his show occasionally I love his irreverent humor; I think he is extremely bright and I do share his liberal politics. I know he gets badly beaten in the ratings every night by that O'Reilly creep but that is the result of America being so conservative right now. And of course he has a liberal slant; I'm guessing that is what they are paying him for. NBC already has Brian Williams to report the news; Keith's job is to turn it upside down.

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09-29-2006, 09:27 AM
Posted By: <b>robert</b><p>I love Ted Knight.

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09-29-2006, 09:45 AM
Posted By: <b>ScottIngold</b><p>3 words...."Fair and balanced" do not describe him. I'll stick with o'reilly

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09-29-2006, 10:09 AM
Posted By: <b>Pennsylvania Ted</b><p>SCOTT I.<br /><br />Old buddy.....I couldn't have said it better myself.<br /><br />O'Reilly's viewership is in the MILLION's.........while.....<br /><br />KO barely has 200,000 (he is the bottom feeder in the Cable Ratings war).<br /><br />At this rate, he will be off soon and perhaps devote more time to sports. But....<br />hasn't he been on several sports shows in the past and they all "bombed-out" ?<br /><br />Maybe they were "bombed-out" by the same "aliens" he thinks blew up the World<br /> Trade Center buildings ?

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09-29-2006, 12:04 PM
Posted By: <b>Tom Boblitt</b><p>that was George Bush and his brother Marvin who owns the security company that had just put in a new security system at the WTC.....not aliens....<br /><br />

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09-29-2006, 12:34 PM
Posted By: <b>davidcycleback</b><p>"Many complain about a news organization's bias. Most of these people aren't<br />looking for unbiased reporting, but reporting with a different bias (theirs)."

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09-29-2006, 12:57 PM
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Thank you David. If Keith is biased, so is that O'Reilly guy...just in the wrong direction.

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09-29-2006, 01:00 PM
Posted By: <b>Tom Boblitt</b><p>but I certainly see that O'Reilly is as much to the right as Olbermann is to the left. Overall I like O'Reilly but he can be incredibly beliggerent (sp?) and obnoxious. But that's his job I guess.....ratings, ratings, ratings.....<br /><br />

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09-29-2006, 01:05 PM
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>O'Reilly will always outdraw Keith because America is what it is...maybe one of these days I will pick up and move to Latvia.

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09-29-2006, 01:07 PM
Posted By: <b>jeff drum</b><p>There both showmen. Take them both with a grain of salt. I am not looking for anyone of the boob tube to tell me what to think. If you regard it as pure entertainment they are both easy to take or leave!

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09-29-2006, 01:13 PM
Posted By: <b>davidcycleback</b><p>I tend to classify many of these cable shows as entertainment rather than news.

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09-29-2006, 01:23 PM
Posted By: <b>Pennsylvania Ted</b><p>I have an acquaintance who demolishes buildings as a profession. I could write<br />several pages here, relating all he has told me regarding the absolute absurdity<br />and erroneous "Bull--S" these "conspiracy kooks" have spewed in their attempts<br /> to convince sane-minded people of how these buildings went down.<br /><br />But, I'll limited this to one paragraph......1st, he stated when you employ explosives<br />to demolish a structure, it occurs from the ground level....up. The kooks claim that<br />explosions were visible in the lower levels of the Twin Towers (TT). These were the<br /> resulting explosions of power transformers, fire extinguishers, and other similar devices<br /> exploding as the fires spread and as the upper levels (DUE TO GRAVITY) came crashing<br /> down on top of the lower levels. And, why did this happen....he went on to say that TT<br /> fire walls were not asbestos (the only material that would have inhibited the massive fire<br />damage). This caused the steel structure to start to warp due to the high temp. gene-<br />rated by the fires; therefore, weakening the stuctural integrity of the TT's. And, indeed<br /> he proved this to me with still photos from videos of the TT's prior to their collapse.<br />These photos clearly show the South Tower starting to lean just before it went down.<br />Then followed by the North Tower leaning several degrees and then collapsing.<br /><br />I wont bore you with anymore details....besides the real facts just confuse the "kooks".

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09-29-2006, 01:34 PM
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Ted- I'm missing something. What does the demolition of buildings have to do with Keith? Does he have some theory of how the towers fell that I am not aware of? Just curious.

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09-29-2006, 02:01 PM
Posted By: <b>Tom Boblitt</b><p>that was a response to my tongue-in-cheek comment about the conspiracy theorists who think WTC was blown up by the government. I don't believe that by the way........<br /><br />Don't move to Latvia......not many vintage cards....<br /><br />Plus...what ever happened to the Barbara Streisands and George Clooney's who were going to leave the country if Bush was re-elected. Sadly....they're still here.......<br /><br />

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09-29-2006, 02:10 PM
Posted By: <b>jeff drum</b><p>And don't forget the most outraged of all, the ex-Mr. Basinger

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09-29-2006, 02:10 PM
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Latvia is just my metaphor for the world coming to an end. Same with Chuck E. Cheese. When I see something that signals the demise of popular culture, I usually respond: "why don't they just open another Chuck E. Cheese?" It's just my own thing.

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09-29-2006, 02:12 PM
Posted By: <b>Bob</b><p>O'Reilly is the Joseph Goebbels of the airwaves.<br />I'm with Barry, if they had Zeenut cards in Latvia, I'd be on the same plane!

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09-29-2006, 02:13 PM
Posted By: <b>Tom Boblitt</b><p>that's friggin ridiculous.......<br /><br />HRBaker........WHERE are you?

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09-29-2006, 02:16 PM
Posted By: <b>jeff drum</b><p>Sitting @ my desk in Atlanta. At worst he's a Secular "Regressive" and a great entertainer. As they say he calls it as he sees it. Not everyone's gonna see it the same. No sacred cows with him. At the end of the day his job is to stir it up and it appears he does a good job. It's all about perspective.

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09-29-2006, 02:18 PM
Posted By: <b>Bob</b><p>Well, maybe a tad, Tom, but I find him to be arrogant and mean-spirited. Olberman can occasionally be arrogant but has enough class not be cruel.

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09-29-2006, 02:35 PM
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>That's a good one Bob- sort of reducing all your political beliefs and social consciousness not to stand behind a noble cause, but instead to follow the Zeenuts. I love it!

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09-29-2006, 02:37 PM
Posted By: <b>Jason L</b><p>this has turned into a very tough thread to follow...Keith Olbermann, SCD, right vs. left politics, conspiracy theory, WTC, Bill O'Reilly, TV ratings, Ebay handles...now all we need is some dancing naked ladies and tangerine milkshakes

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09-29-2006, 02:46 PM
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>I don't really know if they do have Zeenuts in Latvia...but if they do, I'm guessing they're missing the tabs.

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09-29-2006, 03:24 PM
Posted By: <b>Al C.risafulli</b><p>They make tangerine milkshakes?<br /><br />-Al

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09-29-2006, 04:04 PM
Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>I don't really know if any of these people are left, right, or in the middle...but I think we might have had enough politics for the day. It's sort of a no no on the board. I think letting a little go is ok but I would prefer to talk more about cards. SCD is fair game ....

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09-29-2006, 10:28 PM
Posted By: <b>Brian Koyama</b><p>Keith Olberman got me back into collecting when he used to spend the last 5min of his sports reports talking about baseball cards when he was here in Los Angeles. He used to bring in a local dealer showing off his old tobacco cards.