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09-13-2006, 06:30 PM
Posted By: <b>Bob Pomilla</b><p>Whaddaya's think?<br /><br /><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=330025469777&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=014" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=330025469777&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=014</a>
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09-13-2006, 06:34 PM
Posted By: <b>Steve M.</b><p>Why would a guy with 7026 feedback stoop to shilling? Wouldn't make any sense for a seasoned seller. JM2cents
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09-13-2006, 07:15 PM
Posted By: <b>Judge Dred (Fred)</b><p>There are three bidders with less than 10 feedbacks. That's kind of odd but when a search turns up that these bidders bid in many other auctions and not just this sellers auctions. I'd bet money these aren't shills.
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09-13-2006, 10:41 PM
Posted By: <b>fkw</b><p>Inexperienced bidders bidding up the price with 3+ days left, that all. Not Shill.
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09-14-2006, 05:12 AM
Posted By: <b>T E</b><p>I sure would not want to see this card go to someone with a zero rating if I were the seller...<br /><br />hoofaway
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09-14-2006, 01:39 PM
Posted By: <b>runscott</b><p>There are plenty of high-feedback sellers on ebay who shill their own auctions - these are the ones who are least likely to get nailed for it by ebay. Also, it makes perfect sense if you are shilling your own auction, to use those id's to bid on other seller's auctions - perfect cover.<br /><br />In the end we won't know, but 'inexperienced bidders' seems quite naive.
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09-14-2006, 02:27 PM
Posted By: <b>davidcycleback</b><p>Some high end eBay sellers shill, as Scott says. <br /><br />An imperfect test of a high end seller is to look at all the auctions, not one or two. <br />If the seller gets very high prices on one lot, but unexpectedly low on others, that is<br />indication that the auctioneer is not shilling. If the auctioneer gets unusually, or even<br />outragiously, high prices on all his lots, that's a suggestion of shilling.<br /><br />I consigned stuff, some sold well and some sold less than expected. The auctioneer<br />said to me about one low lot, "The problem with eBay is you can't predict the<br />prices." That's something an auctioneer who doesn't shill would say. <br /><br />As normal eBay sellers who don't shill will testify, sometimes a lot will sell<br />for a lot higher than expected and the winner pays for it. So a high price itself<br />doesn't prove anything.<br /><br />I also beleive that to judge if there is shilling, one should look at the pattern<br />of bidding throughout the auction, not just near the end. Often, shilling<br />begins early. It is my inkling that comparing between major auction houses<br />the price/bid levels on day 2 or 3 or 6 is as important as looking at hammer day.<br />I personally wonder when a auction house has a distinctly different pattern<br />than the other auction houses.