Should I Soak This Off???

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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>Picked this up today at an estate auction in an old scrapbook....as you can see it appears as though he has been beheaded. Do you think I should soak this off or just cut around it?<br /> <br /><a href="http://imageshack.us"><img src="http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/5586/scrappsmallde5.jpg" border="0" alt="Image Hosted by ImageShack.us" /></a>

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Posted By: <b>joe</b><p>I have a few Detroit players like this, called Scrapps. Most found have glue resedue on th back. It would be tough to cut around it I would think. I would soak if it is possible.<br /><br />Joe

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Posted By: <b>davidcycleback</b><p>I had an 1890s scrapbook of scraps and die cuts. The paper was so soft you could remove the die cuts from the pages by tearing away the paper. Though that didn't remove glue from the backs.

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Posted By: <b>PC</b><p>If that is a tear across the neck, if you soak it you will have two separate pieces. I would keep it on the paper, as that would present much better than two pieces. Maybe cut a rectangular piece of the page around the Scrapps, as opposed to cutting around the Scrapps itself, which might look wierd or cause even more damage.

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Posted By: <b>Tom Boblitt</b><p>on this one..........

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Posted By: <b>Gilbert Maines</b><p>Yes, I am with PC on this one too. By cutting a rectangular section of the page out, in my estimation, you have taken something which was not a card, and made a card out of it.<br /><br />Specifically, the pretty vignettes of baseball players are not actually cards, but when coupled with the original owners regognition that they had to be pasted (in this case not before they tore) to protect them, and your cutting out a rectangle which has the scrapp at its center - a card is created. Sort of.<br /><br />And each one is unique, possibly including part of what is pasted near to it. I like this idea, if you keep each example as a similarly sized rectangle.

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Posted By: <b>fkw</b><p>If it is just a heavy crease and not 2 pieces already....Id soak it, if it is torn in 2 I might not. The Scraps are actually easy (IMO) to soak from album pages. I have done about a dozen in last 5 years. This one might be tricky because the damaged area might get worse. PS I sometimes dont complete soak the card and paper back in water, I will cut it out first then with the Scraps side down dab the back until the paper is complete wet then start taking the flaky scrapbook paper layers off with tweezers. Sometime the whole piece comes off in one easy chunk. I just removed scrapbook paper from N28 Comiskey in 1 minute, and it came out perfect. Some of the 1880's pastes/glue they used was water soluble.

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Posted By: <b>Sean</b><p>Ideas with this guy??? <br /><br /><img src="http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g193/hanksta3/T206%20Hall%20of%20Fame/T206cobbFsmall.jpg"><br /><br />Or does anyone know if Ty had a brother/son named Carl? <br /><br />Sean BH

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Posted By: <b>Frank Wakefield</b><p>What to do with that green Cobb....<br /><br />Well for starters, you could sell him to me. I'm after about ten more to be short of the big 4, and he's one of the ones I'm after.<br /><br />Or, you could get paper towels handy for blotting, and ever so gently, probably with a pin, coax a drop of water onto the rightmost edge of that ink, then blot. See if the ink seemed water soluable. Then you'll have an idea of what to try. If he is just dumped in water and the ink migrates across the card, then you have a mess. <br /><br />It most likely was water soluable, permanent ink. So it probably is in there to stay.<br /><br />Good luck with him!<br /><br />Frank.

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Posted By: <b>Sean</b><p>Frank,<br />After a few Heineken Lights (not too bad I must say) I got the courage to see if the ink would magically disappear with a touch of water and right before my eyes...nothing happened. Crap.<br /><br />Well now I must do some research and find out who this Carl guy is.<br /><br />Sean BH

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Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>Well I soaked it off, and just as I suspected it was in two pieces.....So I pressed it dry and glued the pieces together. you can still tell that it was two pieces, but it did glue back exactly the way it looked in the scrapbook and now it's in a screwdown holder and looks great. My scanner doesn't scan cards in screwdowns worth a crap so you'll just have to trust me that it looks great.<br /><br /> <a href="http://imageshack.us"><img src="http://img124.imageshack.us/img124/3528/scrappstipsmallxb3.jpg" border="0" alt="Image Hosted by ImageShack.us" /></a>