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07-14-2006, 11:58 AM
Posted By: <b>Erland Stevens</b><p>How many sets include both major and minor league players? I am aware of some (listed below), but I don't know if I've got them all. While any replies are appreciated, I'm mostly asking about 20th century sets (prewar of course!). The term &quot;major league&quot; loses some meaning with earlier sets.<br><br>T206 (lots in several leagues)<br>T205 (12 International League)<br>T201 (9? American Assn./International)<br>E254 (lots in several leagues)<br>E270-1 (ditto)<br>E270-2 (ditto)<br>T213-x (ditto)

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07-14-2006, 12:08 PM
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Add N172 to the list.

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07-14-2006, 12:37 PM
Posted By: <b>Millerhouse</b><p>Add the following to the list:<br /><br />D380 Clement Bros.<br />"Square Colgans"<br />PC760 Rose Post Cards<br />T5 Pinkertons<br />T215-2 Red Cross<br /><br />Dan

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07-14-2006, 01:02 PM
Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>1933 Goudeys<br /><br />Jay<br><br>Growing old is not optional, growing up is.

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07-14-2006, 01:58 PM
Posted By: <b>Mark</b><p>T204 (e.g., Jesse Burkett)

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07-14-2006, 02:47 PM
Posted By: <b>fkw</b><p>off the top of my head......<br /><br />1923 Walter Mails<br />1925-31 W590<br />1927 Honey Boy Ice Cream<br />1933 Worch Cigar<br />1936 R314D<br /><br />

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07-14-2006, 03:39 PM
Posted By: <b>Andy Cook</b><p>also M116

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07-14-2006, 04:45 PM
Posted By: <b>craig</b><p>cameo pepsin

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07-14-2006, 08:40 PM
Posted By: <b>Jim Manos</b><p>T214 Victory

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07-14-2006, 08:41 PM
Posted By: <b>J Levine</b><p>If I recall...<br /><br />N284 Buchner Gold Coin<br />Rose Co. Postcards<br />W601s<br /><br /><br />Joshua

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07-15-2006, 09:38 AM
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>1949 BOWMAN.....the 1st major issue (over 100 cards) Post-WWII set.<br /><br />Included in it are 240 Major League players, Managers and Coaches and a 36-card PCL set.<br /><br />T-Rex Ted

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07-15-2006, 09:47 AM
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Good point Ted. If I am correct, couldn't the PCL's be found at some point in regular packs of 49 Bowmans? Was this true in only certain parts of the country?

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07-15-2006, 10:02 AM
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>BARRY<br /><br />You are correct, veteran hobbyist Bill Bossert and I have acquired original Bowman<br /> collections which have included factory cut PCL cards. Upon asking the owners of<br /> these cards where they got them, they remembered finding them interspersed in<br /> packs of the regular issue of 1949 Bowmans. Most of the factory-cut PCL cards in<br /> my set are from such collections which I acquired back in the mid-'80s. <br /><br />

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07-15-2006, 10:06 AM
Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>Wow, there is a name I haven't heard in a long time. Bill Bossert was the first dealer I got to know when I was stationed in Philly in 1982. He got me started on t205s. <br /><br />Jay<br><br>Growing old is not optional, growing up is.

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07-15-2006, 10:13 AM
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>I remember the PCL set you bought in the 80's quite well, as I would have bought it myself but was 15 minutes too late. Long story.

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07-15-2006, 05:40 PM
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>I met Bill Bossert and his partner, Gary Dollar back in 1981 at Willow Grove, PA. Two<br />super great guys, not just in BB card dealing, but the sheer depth of their knowledge<br /> on any aspect of the hobby. And, their enthusiam in sharing it with me.<br /><br />In addition, Bill was the author of many revealing articles in the Krause BB Cards Mags.<br />in the early 1980's on Uncut Sheets. From Goudeys to Bowmans to 1952 Topps (excuse<br />the expression, Leon). And, who can forget Bill's picture of the 1934 Goudey uncut Hi#<br />sheet of 25 cards with Lajoie (#106) on it....it doesn't get much better than that in this hobby.<br /><br />T-Rex Ted

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07-15-2006, 05:45 PM
Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p>1936 World Wide Gum<br />

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07-15-2006, 08:04 PM
Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>Ted, we definately need to get togehter talk when we get a chance to meet. Hopefully the National next year. <br /><br />Mentioning the uncut sheets reminds me the the two guys that used to always come up with partial Bowman sheets all the time and they were only willing to sell when they needed more money for drugs. I think those guys were a big source of Bill's Bowman and Topps sheets.<br /><br />Jay<br><br>Growing old is not optional, growing up is.

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07-15-2006, 08:20 PM
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>I recall some very interesting stories and crazy goings-on back then, but your<br />story is one I do not recall. And, I am certain that if I knew of such dealings<br />I would not have forgotten it.<br /><br />Yeah, we could probably exchange "war" stories from those early '80s days for<br /> 24 hrs around the clock. Another guy who was great with hobby stories is Irv<br /> Lerner. When the Ocean City (NJ) Show was active we would stay up till 4 AM<br />exchanging stories with him.