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06-28-2006, 07:03 PM
Posted By: <b>Brian Weisner</b><p><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1151456587.JPG"> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1151456606.JPG">

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06-28-2006, 07:07 PM
Posted By: <b>Brian Weisner</b><p>This is the NO B Ritchey.... No red on this card anywhere.<br /><br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1151456733.JPG"> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1151456806.JPG"> <br /><br /><br /><br /><br />

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06-28-2006, 07:21 PM
Posted By: <b>T206Collector</b><p>No dove, SC 150

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06-28-2006, 07:30 PM
Posted By: <b>Steve M.</b><p>Piedmont 150. No dove.

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06-28-2006, 07:38 PM
Posted By: <b>Elliot</b><p>P150---no dove<br /><br />

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06-28-2006, 07:50 PM
Posted By: <b>Drew</b><p>Hi Brian<br />Email sent to you with the picture of<br />Ritchey 150 Piedmont with the "dove".<br /><br /><br />Drew

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06-28-2006, 07:53 PM
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>BRIAN W.<br /><br />Claude Ritchey is another one of those T206 players whose career ended as the<br />1st Series of T206 cards were being issued. He played in only 30 games in 1909<br />and that was it for his 13 year Major Lge. career.<br /><br />Both of these Ritchey cards have Piedmont 150 backs.<br /><br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/aritchey.jpg">

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06-28-2006, 07:55 PM
Posted By: <b>J Hull</b><p>Ritchey no "dove" P350:<br /> <br /><img src="http://www.jimonym.com/R.JPG">

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06-28-2006, 08:02 PM
Posted By: <b>T Engle</b><p>I remember my dad put this on Ebay a while ago.<br /><br />It looks somewhat like a faint dove.<br /><br />Sweet Cap. back<br /><br />T<br /><br />Edited because it got me wondering if there is more value of the dove than no dove. I hope this isn't like a rare type and worth way more than what it went for. Can someone shine the light on this for me. Maybe it isn't a dove at all.<br /><br /><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8803931619&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESO%3AIT&rd=1#ebayphotohosting" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8803931619&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESO%3AIT&rd=1#ebayphotohosting</a" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8803931619&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESO%3AIT&rd=1#ebayphotohosting</a</a>>

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06-28-2006, 08:34 PM
Posted By: <b>Tim James</b><p>Brian,unless there is a crease,thats the best 2 I've seen yet.

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06-28-2006, 09:39 PM
Posted By: <b>Ray Piskadlo</b><p>It took me a few minutes to understand the term "dove"! Mine has a Piedmont 350 back, Factory 25, 2nd District VA.<br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1151465939.JPG">

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07-02-2006, 04:34 AM
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>OK guys, remember that song....who sang it, and what was the year ?<br /><br />BRIAN W.<br /><br />At the risk of repeating myself....unless you have your T206 cards (or set) divided<br />up by Series, it is difficult to appreciate the difference in the Blue coloring between<br /> the cards printed in the 150 Series vs the 350 or 460 Series.<br /><br />The difference in the Ritchey cards on display in this Thread made me take a better<br />look at my set, and I noticed the Light or Pale Blue coloring among the 153 cards in<br /> the 150 Series. Then, I started noting a stark contrast in the Blue coloring in the<br /> subsequent two series. The one exception to this is the Waddell portrait which is the<br /> only card in the 150 Series that has a deep Blue color. I cannot explain why, perhaps<br /> it is an anamoly.<br /><br />American Litho. must have changed printers or acquired a richer quality of Blue ink<br /> when they started printing the 350 Series (and 460) cards. Some notable examples<br />of cards with a deep Blue color are Chase, Chase (dk cap), Chase (trophy), Clymer,<br />Groom, Knabe, Livingstone, Matty (dk cap), Nattress, Speaker, Thielmann, etc.<br /><br />And, my point of all this, is that the sky affect we are seeing in the Ritchey card is<br />just the result of a difference in the printing process with respect to the application<br />of the Blue ink in the "350" cards. And, not a re-designed sky with clouds. And, until<br />we see a Ritchey with a 150 back with the "clouds in the sky", I think this "Bluer ink"<br /> explanation is valid. <br /><br />

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07-02-2006, 06:02 AM
Posted By: <b>Travis Anderson</b><p>SC 150, no "dove"

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07-02-2006, 01:05 PM
Posted By: <b>JimB</b><p>I posted these on the EPDG thread a couple of days ago<br /><br /><img src="http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/9678/t206richteyfront5yh.jpg"> <img src="http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/3585/t206richteyback1pf.jpg">

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07-02-2006, 01:45 PM
Posted By: <b>Scott T</b><p>Mine is the No Dove<br /><br /><img src="http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y133/scottopotamus/1909-1911%20T206%20Collection/412ClaudeRitchey.jpg"><br /><br />The back is a Sweet Caporal 150 Series (Factory 25)<br><br>Scott <br />

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07-02-2006, 05:55 PM
Posted By: <b>JimB</b><p>I have not seen the slightest hint of the dove in any of the posted 150s or P350s without dove. I wonder if a conscious change was not made by someone backstage. This would also support the Piedmont Primacy theory in that Piedmont 350s started out like P150's and then made a switch at the same time all the other brands in the 350 series began to be printed.<br />JimB

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07-02-2006, 07:26 PM
Posted By: <b>bob d</b><p>My scanner's on the fritz.<br /><br />Piedmont 150 w/ Dove

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07-02-2006, 07:36 PM
Posted By: <b>Brian Weisner</b><p><br /> Here you go Ted, Piedmont 150 back....<br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1151782344.JPG">

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07-02-2006, 09:26 PM
Posted By: <b>Jim Thierfelder</b><p>It is pretty faint but visible on this Sweet Caporal 150.<br /><br /><img src="http://img452.imageshack.us/img452/1266/scan0010019io.png"><br /><br />

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07-02-2006, 10:54 PM
Posted By: <b>Dave</b><p><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1151816046.JPG"> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1151816075.JPG"> <br /><br />Edited to add: Big Dove<br /><br />

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07-03-2006, 01:51 AM
Posted By: <b>JimB</b><p>I stand corrected.<br />JimB

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07-03-2006, 10:32 AM
Posted By: <b>Jim T</b><p>Just based on the cards posted thus far, it seems that the dove effect is a result of the amount or richness of the blue used in printing the card.

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07-06-2006, 02:01 PM
Posted By: <b>Lee Behrens</b><p>Here's Mine, Piedmont 350:<br /><br /><img src="http://attic2cash.net/T206Ritchey.jpg"><br /><br />Lee

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07-06-2006, 03:08 PM
Posted By: <b>Betty</b><p>Claude Richey Piedmont 150 Light Blue Backgroundhttp://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1152133640.JPG <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1152133640.JPG">