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05-23-2006, 08:56 AM
Posted By: <b>Bryan Long</b><p>I finally got a chance to look through the last edition of OldCardboard, and the story of the Texas Tommy cards was interesting. I guess I never really knew just how rare these cards were. I didn't eve know that there was cards of Johnson, Cobb and Wagner. My question is, exactly how rare is rare when it comes to these cards. I think Ben Fisher had a Texas Tommy Mack that I remember seeing a long time ago. I rarely see one for auction - let alone a Cobb or Johnson. Are there board members that have a nice selection of these cards. How much would one cost me to have a type in my collection?<br><br>.

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05-23-2006, 09:10 AM
Posted By: <b>Wesley</b><p>The PSA 4 Wagner went for $29,458.25 in Mastro.

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05-23-2006, 11:45 AM
Posted By: <b>Bryan Long</b><p>The Mathewson. I have never seen one. Heck I didn't even know it existed. I need to start studying up more <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br><br>.

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05-23-2006, 11:51 AM
Posted By: <b>Zach Rice</b><p>E224s are rare, very rare. Only a few examples of each exist type of rare. Just a common would set you back over $2,000. There was an E224-2 Johnson that brought around $15,000 a year ago at auction. I imagine a type one would have gone for more because of the back biographies and they are larger but who knows. There was also a Baker in a Mastro about a year ago, same with a Snodgrass type two in a Lipset auction. Regarding people with collections of them, there are a few of them out there. I have the Earl Moore on my wantlist, I know of two and don't expect to own one anytime soon <img src="/images/sad.gif" height=14 width=14>

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05-23-2006, 01:56 PM
Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>I know a gentleman, who wrote the OldCarboard story, that is only missing one card to finish his type 1 and type 2 sets of Texas Tommys. After trading and selling about 5 from the Trucker Boy find I only kept one....<br /><br /><img src="http://luckeycards.com/pe224marsans.jpg">

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05-23-2006, 02:01 PM
Posted By: <b>Jeff Mohler</b><p>Leon: As one of the newbies on the board, could you elaborate on the "Trucker Boy" find? I am fascinated by "find" stories and would love to hear yours.<br /><br />Jeff Mohler

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05-23-2006, 02:07 PM
Posted By: <b>Bryan Long</b><p>Leon that had the Walter Johnson card? I think I remember seeing it on your website some time ago. Did you sell it in Mastro or am I mistaken?<br><br>.

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05-23-2006, 02:20 PM
Posted By: <b>Ben</b><p>Bryan, you are correct - I did once own a Texas Tommy Connie Mack. It was trimmed, but still one of my favorite cards that I've ever owned. Of course it was stolen along with nearly everything else last year. If I could have only a few cards back, it would be among my top choices. <br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1148331507.JPG"> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1148331528.JPG"> <br /><br />As an aside (I'd rather not start a new thread on this), the 6 stolen cards that were listed on ebay last week were all recovered (a voskamps, n172, and some 50's hofers) but no leads to the thief or the remainder of my collection. I really don't want to hijack this thread, so if anyone has any comments/questions about this, please email me privately.

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05-23-2006, 02:28 PM
Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>I traded the Johnson in a monumental trade deal.....and kept only the Marsans...I believe there might only be 3-4 known Marsans Texas Tommys.....<br /><br /><br />Jeff- Through an ebay deal, and then many subsequent private deals, I got the following cards from a somewhat illiterate trucker in Northern CA.....I coined it "the trucker boy" find as that is what he did for a living...there's more to the story but only over beers at the National.....here's the story...................this was around late '03- and early '04<br />-----------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /><br />aw...what the heck: ...cut and pasted from the original thread:<br /><br />I believe I have seen the last small group of inherited cards from the gentleman in Northern California. It was a very informative situation<br />in that I got to see a nice PCL collection untainted by modern collectors/dealers. It looks like almost all of the cards have been put into a scrapbook at one time as a majority exhibit strong corners and<br />back damage, though many backs were spared too....... It was neat to see how they were really collected and in what type of numbers, relative to each other. I believe the only cards I missed out on were all 159 of the Colgans, Red Borders, and Tin Tops (if any), and about 5-7 M101-1/2's....Nothing I could do...they just got sold.......The total for all of the cards I got was about 732'ish. I will probably only sell these through ebay or to a large auction house. I am keeping everything I have an interest in, as utmost and foremost, I am still a collector. Including what I had posted before the grand total breakout is/was (several cards have been sold already to happy board/ebay members): <br /><br />D310 (12) w/weaver fr....overall gd-vg<br />D311 (61) all different pr-ex<br />E90-1 (18) w/Jackson (pr-sold), Joss..overall pr-fr <br />E90-2 (1) Wagner - nice SGC 20....2 moderate creases<br />E90-3 (2) common and pr-<br />E101 (9) w/Evers, Jennings pr-fr....major back damage..<br />E136 Zeenut '11 (113) w/Weaver in fr...others vg'ish<br />E136 Zeenut '12 (36) gd-vg+/ex<br />E136 HR Kisses (2) gd<br />E136 Zeenut '13 (6) all with coupon<br />E136 Zeenut '14 (23) 6 with coupon 17 without coupon<br />E137 Zeenut '15 (67) 24 with coupon w/McMullen 43 w/o coup.w/Risberg, Lefty Williams <br />E137 Zeenut '16 (1) with coupon<br />E224 Texas Tommy (5) w/Marsans, w/uncatalogued <br />E-Unc Big Eater (3) w/ horizontal ex, 1 in gd-vg, 1 pr<br />H-unc Western Playground (40) complete set vg+<br />T4 Obak- (2) still unidentified but not Weaver. <br />T206 Old Mill- (23) w/Cobb, Evers, Chance, Willis.pr-fr<br />T206 Sweet Caporal ?(1) Cobb 350-460 series...pr.<br />T212-1 Obak (47) nice mix of framed/frameless<br />T212-2 Obak (116) about 25 different slogans.. pr-ex-mt<br />T212-3 Obak (131) w/Weaver pr-nrmt/mt<br />T217 Mono (8) 3 that don't have back damage......pr-gd<br />T222 Fatima- (7) all common, 1 high number in fr, 2 cut in half, pr....<br /><br />wish I could find more of these "finds"...but will just go back to<br />whittling away like I have been for the past several years......<br />regards all<br />