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05-04-2006, 06:51 AM
Posted By: <b>greg buscemi</b><p>I need a quick opinion on this card do you think it is real or what <br /><br /><br /><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8802419788" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8802419788</a>
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05-04-2006, 07:10 AM
Posted By: <b>peter ullman</b><p>i was studying that card myself...looks ok...back scan looks a little wierd and looks like it may have been trimmed. seller guarantees card...so seems like little risk!<br /><br />pete in mn
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05-04-2006, 07:13 AM
Posted By: <b>Erland Stevens</b><p>Greg<br><br>Several months ago I picked up a T205 Zach Wheat from the exact same seller. The Wheat was in bad shape and went for something like $20+ - still not a bad deal. When I got it, the card was clearly fake. It didn't feel like a real vintage card, and the gold borders were a solid color (nothing like a bona fide sparkling T205 but very hard to see in a scan). Just like the Young card, the Wheat (Piedmont back) had some scuffing on the back. This scuffing on the Wheat was exactly where the word "reprint" was supposed to be. I've since seen Wheat reprints and the card I was sold was obviously doctored. The Young card is Sweet Caporal, and I would bet that "reprint" should appear just below the word "standard" at the very bottom of the card. You can see it because it has been removed.<br><br>In defense of the seller, I was offered a full refund. Thankful that I hadn't been burned for more and little intrigued at the card that fooled me so easily, I kept the card. The seller told me that he was just getting into the T205s and was having a hard time distinguishing reprints. Wanting to think the best, I believed him. This card now makes me think I should have been more suspicious.<br><br>Erland
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05-04-2006, 07:38 AM
Posted By: <b>greg buscemi</b><p>Thanks for the info <br /><br />with less than 12 hours to go <br /><br />unless I am outbid I cant cancel my bid<br /><br />
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05-04-2006, 07:45 AM
Posted By: <b>Mark</b><p>I would pass.....
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05-04-2006, 07:55 AM
Posted By: <b>John S</b><p>As with other fake T205's, the image appears too "flat". The printing process on the original T205's gives them a certain depth. The red is too red and there is no transition besides color change between border and the backgound.
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05-04-2006, 07:58 AM
Posted By: <b>Josh K.</b><p>Greg - just dont pay for the card if you win and let the seller know the reason. You might also want to report it to ebay - if they cancel the auction, you wont have to worry about it.
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05-04-2006, 08:07 AM
Posted By: <b>Sean</b><p>If you do win it, he does accept returns..."If not satisfied, I offer a full refund with no questions asked." <br /><br />Or you always could retract your bid.
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05-04-2006, 08:40 AM
Posted By: <b>J Levine</b><p>Fake and trimmed...color is all wrong on front...too flat, the gold does not look right and the paper stock looks wrong too where the scuffs are.<br /><br />Joshua
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05-04-2006, 09:38 AM
Posted By: <b>Tom Boblitt</b><p>don't really break through the card. Possible for a real T205 but the reprinted ones crease a diferent way. The paper is more waxy and doesn't break like a early 1900's card typically does. Definitely fake on this one.<br />
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05-04-2006, 09:50 AM
Posted By: <b>Steve M.</b><p>that if a seller has been caught before with reprinted cards he/she wouldn't continue listing them. Run!
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05-04-2006, 10:56 AM
Posted By: <b>fkw</b><p>Same seller has a reprint E145-2 Alexander on eBay as well. He is clueless on vintage cards.