Show your 19th Century Color Errors, Oddities, etc.

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Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>We seldom see color error cards, misprints, oddities, or whatever from the<br />late 19th Century collections. Did Old Judge, Allen & Ginter, etc. have tighter<br />Quality Control in those years ?<br />Anyhow, here is one that escaped the QC guys in the NYC printing firm. <br /><br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/dunlaps.jpg"><br /><br />I would like to thank Barry Sloate for introducing me to the N162 set back in 1984.<br />It has been my favorite ever since and I still continue to upgrade all 50 cards in it.

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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>I don't have a lot to add except I think that's a neat looking N162, in a weird sort of way.. I'll dig through some stuff, to see what else I might have, but I always like the ones where the guy(s) poses look very fake...and OJ's are seen miscut (as all of our resident experts well know) quite often....Roger N sold me this for $75 a few years ago. I think he was doing me a favor for coming out to his solo show....great guy he is.....<br /><br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1145413645.JPG">

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Posted By: <b>JimB</b><p>Ted,<br />That is a cool card. I don't think I have seen an N162 color/print error before.<br />JimB

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Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>LEON<br /><br />While your OJ is not a "error" type card, it certainly falls in the category<br />of "oddities". That picture was probably staged in the studio in NYC where<br />the Old Judge cards were produced.<br /><br />Incidently, the Roger N. you are referring to....is he from Oklahoma ?<br />If so, you are right....great guy....I've known him since the early '80s.

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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>Yes...one and the same, Roger. The guy is a friggin' savant when it comes to memorizing baseball card #'s.....

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Posted By: <b>J Levine</b><p>First off, I own the same N172 for my Phillies collection although mine is beat to death and missing part of the top of the card.<br /><br />Second...it is Roger Neufeldt who is the dealer. Great guy who has a lot of great info. memorized. He often keeps beat up cards for collectors like me and discounts nicely too. Look him up at the National. I personally have been buying from Roger for many many years (got my first tatoo orbit from him and the bulk of my '53 Bowman Black and White set as well).<br /><br />Joshua

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Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Not necessarily a "mistake" card, but the question I have about my 1895 Mayo<br />is......are many cards in this set found with their Adv. strip cleanly cut off, as<br /> this one is ?<br />It reminds me of the 1933 Goudey's that have their "Big League" strip cut off.<br /><img src="http://www.freephotoserver.com/v001/tedzan/tuckermayo.jpg">

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Posted By: <b>Tom Boblitt</b><p>I've seen lots of Mayos and Old Judges with their strips cut off. Have seen stories of mothers who didn't want their kids smoking, so they cut off the advertising. I'm sure that in the 1880's and 1890's that cutting the strip off the card would have cured that ill.....

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Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Tom<br />Your explanation is as good as any....thanx.<br /><br />Come on guys....<br />I cannot believe my N162 Dunlap is the only error card from this era ?<br /><br />Let's do some digging and find some more cards to show.

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Posted By: <b>Gilbert Maines</b><p>Ted is the n162 a printing error or a damaged card?

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Posted By: <b>craig</b><p>here are 2 des moines OJs with the names switched. the leech maskrey actually pictures little mac macullar, and the macullar pictures maskrey.<br /><br />craig<br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1146257757.JPG"> <br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1146257740.JPG">

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Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>Gil<br /><br />Just waking up.....my Grandson and I were at your "favorite" ballpark<br />in the Bronx last nite. I don't think I'll do this again anytime too soon.<br /> Between the cold wind, occasional "beer showers", and the obnoxious<br /> fans, it's not the event I used to enjoy (perhaps, I am getting too old).<br /><br />The "pale" looking Dunlap is a true color printing error. The background<br />is Yellow, which is always one of the initial ink applications in the multi-<br />color printing process. The final ink color, cyan (blue) was not applied on<br />this card which would have created the Blue and Green coloring seen in the<br />background on the normal card of Dunlap. Color printing in the 19th Century,<br />and essentially is the same today, is a 4 - color (black, yellow, magenta, cyan)<br />inking process.