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04-08-2006, 04:27 PM
Posted By: <b>Joe_G.</b><p>I normally wait for auctions to end but this item is incorrectly labeled by PSA (although seller does give clue that it isn't really a script card by stating it's an 1889 example). I recognize many of the bidders as members of the forum so thought I'd share the error in case you didn't catch it.<br /><br /><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/1887-N172-Old-Judge-ROGER-CONNER-Script-PSA-5-HOF_W0QQitemZ8789525273QQcategoryZ31718QQssPageNam eZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/1887-N172-Old-Judge-ROGER-CONNER-Script-PSA-5-HOF_W0QQitemZ8789525273QQcategoryZ31718QQssPageNam eZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem</a><br /><br />The card is not an 1887 script card (script cards usually carry a premium). It is instead an 1889 example, not a script even though you can see script writing. I have no interest in this card, just passing along the info.<br /><br />Regards,<br />Joe Gonsowski<br /><br /><edit> to better explain situation.
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04-08-2006, 04:40 PM
Posted By: <b>Steve M.</b><p><br />is this a "script" card?<br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1144449539.JPG">
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04-08-2006, 04:49 PM
Posted By: <b>Joe_G.</b><p>The example above is not a script card but instead an 1887 long numbered (aka leading zero) type II card. The long numbered cards, type I & II are amongst the most common covering 505 poses amongst 117 players.<br /><br />The script cards were earlier 1887 issue covering the NY Mets Spotted Ties (16 cards) and another 17 cards including 3 of Kelly (w Chicago), Welch & Connor. All the cards, except Kelly & Smith are from the NY Mets & NY Giants.<br /><br />Best Regards,<br />Joe Gonsowski
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04-08-2006, 05:00 PM
Posted By: <b>Joe_G.</b><p>Here are the only two Connor Script cards.<br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1144450641.JPG"> <br /><br />He has two other poses that were first issued in 1888 and a 5th that is only known as an N173 cabinet. Pose #2, first issued in 1888 was re-issued in 1889 and that is what can be found at eBay link above.<br /><br />Regards,<br />Joe Gonsowski
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04-08-2006, 06:45 PM
Posted By: <b>martindl</b><p>Joe,<br />Thanks for the alert.<br /><br />If the seller knows enough to note that its an 1889 versus an 1887, surely they know enough to know that PSA mislabelled the card and that its not a script card. Maybe not, but it does make you wonder.<br /><br />If PSA would get their act together it wouldn't be an issue.