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03-26-2006, 09:01 PM
Posted By: <b>rmacpa</b><p>anyone know what this is or has seen another player from this series?<br />(click on scan to enlarge)<br /><br /><a href="http://img104.imageshack.us/my.php?image=tinker7ob.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/7766/tinker7ob.th.jpg" border="0" alt="Free Image Hosting at www.ImageShack.us" /></a>

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03-27-2006, 06:50 AM
Posted By: <b>sam</b><p>i have no idea but the area beneath the shoes is<br />shaped similarly to the area below joe jackson's<br />shoes on his texas tommy card. perhaps a coincidence.

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03-27-2006, 07:56 AM
Posted By: <b>Dan Koteles</b><p>if Iam not mistaken ,Frank Ward has or had a player<br />that looked similar to this card size and writing.<br />Nice looking & unique to say the least.

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03-27-2006, 08:51 AM
Posted By: <b>fkw</b><p>Hi, I dont have anything like it. It is a nice piece though. It is sort of a cross between a Max Stein Postcard and a Texas Tommy (like Sam said). Is it blank back? What size?<br /><br />Frank

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03-27-2006, 09:03 AM
Posted By: <b>rmacpa</b><p>it has a blank back and, while i can't supply<br />exact measurements until i remove it from a safe<br />deposit box, it is larger than a type 1 texas tommy,<br />but approximately the same size as the texas tommy <br />card listed as a joe jackson proof with BLACK back <br />that ran in a hager auction 9 years ago. that card <br />was won by a denver area collector who paid 26k for it.<br />while i'm not sure the hager description was necessarily<br />accurate, it is the closest item in appearance to this card<br />that i have come across so far.

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03-27-2006, 09:56 AM
Posted By: <b>Anson</b><p>I agree with Frank, it has attributes of both. However the trail probably leads closer to the Stein postcards as Tinker was done with Chicago (except for a really short stint) back in 1912. Regionally speaking, it would make more sense too.

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03-27-2006, 10:19 AM
Posted By: <b>rmacpa</b><p>the stock is too thin to be considered a postcard.<br />the card is also larger than a standard postcard <br />and has a completely blank back.

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03-27-2006, 10:24 AM
Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>I recently thought that a 1930's PC-Unc Cobb I had was not real as it was on fairly thin cardboard. It felt ike heavy crate paper. I sent it into SGC before I sold it, to get another opinion, and they thought it was good. I think it got put in a 40-50 holder. The stock was definitely flimsy too. My guess is this is some sort of trimmed (not fraudulently) postcard. I guess it could always be a cutout from somekind of ad piece too. Cool pic.. regards

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03-27-2006, 10:59 AM
Posted By: <b>rmacpa</b><p>i'm thankful for the input as any information is appreciated. <br />my hope is to find evidence of another player from this series <br />for comparison of size, format, stock, etc. whatever it <br />eventually is determined to be. i will post the dimensions<br />of this item once i retrieve it.

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03-27-2006, 11:07 AM
Posted By: <b>Todd</b><p>it appears that Joe is wearing a 1907 World Series uniform if that helps.

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03-27-2006, 11:43 AM
Posted By: <b>Lyman</b><p>Below for comparison is an image of the Joe Jackson card from the E224 Texas Tommy set, courtesy of John Esch.<br /><br /><img align=left hspace=14 src="http://www.oldcardboard.com/e/e2/e224/type1/23.jpg" height=340 width=220 border=0>John has written a detailed article about the set that will run in the next (Issue #7, Spring 2006) issue of <i>Old Cardboard</i> magazine. It will include a full gallery for both subsets. An article abstract can be found at <a href="http://www.oldcardboard.com/misc/issue07/issue07.asp" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.oldcardboard.com/misc/issue07/issue07.asp</a>.