Who is this player?

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Posted By: <b>Richard Masson</b><p>The bottom area where the name is normally located is too faded to read. His name starts with an "S" and the team affiliation is Philadelphia. This probably narrows it down to Sanders, Schriver or Shannon. Who do you think it is?<img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1140840332.JPG">

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Posted By: <b>Zach Rice</b><p>I say Shannon, none of the others two are known in the N173 set with batting poses to my knowledge.<br /><br />Edited to ad that the letter right next to the S really looks like an A but I can only find Sanders in two N173 poses, neither of which batting.

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>Have you tried putting the scan into photoshop and creating a negative image?/ This might make the faded writing much clearer.<br /><br />Jay<br><br>I've just reached Upper Lower Class. I am now officially a babe magnet for poor chicks.

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Posted By: <b>Richard Masson</b><p>I tried a blacklight in a dark room.<br />I'll try the negative image in photoshop.

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Posted By: <b>Joe_G.</b><p>I'm putting my money on <b>Pop Schriver</b> - Bat over right shoulder (w Philadelphia) or possibly a new pose not found in N172 (more examples of this than many suspect).<br /><br />Regards,<br />Joe G.

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Posted By: <b>Zach Rice</b><p>I go with Joe then. The letter right next to the S isn't an H and since Schriver is known with a batting pose with his bat over his right shoulder, new news to me <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>, I would say its him 100 percent.

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Posted By: <b>Richard Masson</b><p>Except that here is 405-1, the bat over right shoulder pose for Schriver, Philadelphiahttp://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1140843644.JPG

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Posted By: <b>Richard Masson</b><p><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1140843644.JPG">

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Posted By: <b>Zach Rice</b><p>Maybe a new pose of Shannon then ? I looked at it in photoshop just a second ago and the second letter really has tends to look like a lower case A to me. <br /><br />Edited to ad it couldn't be a lower case A because N173s are all in capital letters aren't they ?

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Posted By: <b>Joe_G.</b><p>I'm trying to answer quick before Jay steps in and ends the guessing game <img src="/images/wink.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />If Schriver, as I propose, I realize it isn't accounted for in the N172s and contend as above that it might be a N173 only pose (not uncommon).<br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1140845045.JPG"> <br /><br />I'm going to dig a little further into Shannon & Shindle. Shindle was shown with Philadelphia during N173 run & the Baltimore uniform looks very similar to Phily.<br /><br />Regards,<br />Joe Gonsowski

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Posted By: <b>Joe_G.</b><p>For the record, the above 5 cards were all lifted off Dave Levin's site and account for the 5 known poses in the Cartophilic listings (405-1 to 405-5).<br /><br />Regards,<br />Joe G.

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Posted By: <b>Judge Dred (Fred)</b><p>What about Sanders? His fourth N172 pose is dark uniform bat at ready.

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Posted By: <b>Joe_G.</b><p>I'm going with my original post, a new pose of Schriver. If true, that pushes the number of "cabinet only" poses up to around 35!<br /><br />Shannon didn't play with Philadelphia until 1890 (Players League) which means he shouldn't show up on a Philadelphia N173.<br /><br />Shindle, I don't think so.<br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1140846105.JPG"> <br /><br />OK, put an end to this Jay Miller <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />Regards,<br />Joe Gonsowski

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Posted By: <b>Richard Masson</b><p>Pose 398-4 Sanders.<br />Dark Uniform, bat at ready.<br />If you check out 398-2 on Levin's site, you can see the resemblance. I still need the pose, so didn't have one to compare.<br />

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Posted By: <b>Joe_G.</b><p>You might have it Fred, I stopped looking at Sanders when I noticed a couple of his white uniform poses. Here is one of his dark Piladelphia poses, but not #4.<br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1140846818.JPG"> <br /><br />Joe G.

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Posted By: <b>Joe_G.</b><p>Yes, Sanders it is, notice how Sanders left his collar up for the photos while Schriver had his tucked down. Nice cabinet Richard, if it makes you feel any better, that would be an uncatalogued N173 pose <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> Like Gypsy Queens, the common player cards (poses) are not catalogued all that well.<br /><br />Joe G.

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Posted By: <b>bill</b><p>hope you likr the rusie

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Posted By: <b>Richard Masson</b><p>For those of you keeping score, this is actually a new pose, 398-5. The 398-4 pose shows him standing straighter and more upright (I am trying to get a scan to properly differentiate between them). <br /><br />Saving the world, one pose at a time.<br /><br />PS-I like the Rusie, just wish it were darker.

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Posted By: <b>Joe_G.</b><p>Cool Richard,<br /><br />Once we post a pose for side-by-side comparison, we should suggest a description for your cabinet that differentiates it from pose #4. It may mean assigning a revised description to pose #4 to make it clear and easy to identify the poses. Hopefully it will be easier than the Wright portraits.<br /><br />Regards,<br />Joe G.

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Posted By: <b>Andy Baran</b><p>What Rusie?

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Posted By: <b>david levin</b><p>Joe and Richard,<br /><br />Thanks for the mention and I am happy if my library of images has helped you solve the mystery. <br /><br />That is one of the reasons that I keep them up there.<br /><br />Dave

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Posted By: <b>Richard Masson</b><p>Dave, you are the designated historian and keeper of the archives.<br /><br />Andy, I bought a Rusie OJ pose I needed on EBay a short time ago.

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Posted By: <b>Rhys</b><p>My vote is for Ben "J-Lo" Sanders. That huge backside is the dead giveaway in both cards.

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Posted By: <b>Andy Baran</b><p>I was hoping to see an N173 Rusie <img src="/images/sad.gif" height=14 width=14>