RARE T206 Matty found....

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Posted By: <b>Josh</b><p>Looking for a little help on the potential value for this RARE T206 Mathewson dark cap color separation card. I know that color variations are tough to find, but we've never seen one for a top level HOFer like Matty.<br />I just have the images, not the card yet, but it is a potential lot in our September auction, and I'd like to get some idea of what it might fetch.<br />Any help would be greatly appreciated.<br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1138995347.JPG"> <br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1138995357.JPG"> <br /><br /><br /><br /><br />thanks so much for any help on this.<br />Josh

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Posted By: <b>JimB</b><p>My guess would be in the $5,000 range, but it is really hard to say on a card like that. Great card!<br />JimB

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Posted By: <b>robert a</b><p>It's interesting that all of the cards that I have seen over the years with those colors missing have exactly the same back. It must've been only one sheet.<br /><br />Baker sold for about $400 if I remember correctly.<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>JimB</b><p>This Knight sold for over $900 with the juice in the Jan. 19th Century Only auction.<br />JimB<br /><br /><a href="http://www.19thcenturyonly.org/site/bid/bidplace.asp?itemid=3815" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.19thcenturyonly.org/site/bid/bidplace.asp?itemid=3815</a><br /><br />Edited to add, it is a proof with no name on the bottom.<br />Edited again to add the correct link.

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Posted By: <b>andy becker</b><p>i would guess 2k. but all it take is two to tango.....and 5k might be a possibility.<br />good luck on your acquisition

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Posted By: <b>tbob</b><p>$3850

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Posted By: <b>Art M.</b><p>A similar example sold on 08-06-04. I will have to go thru old records to find the price, seller, etc., but here was the scan:<br /><br /><img src="http://members.aol.com/rebelsart2000/Matty1.jpg">

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Posted By: <b>B.c.Daniels</b><p>my guess $2850.00<br /><br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>T206Collector</b><p>...was in my hands for a short time. I sold it for about $300 in cash and trade value combined. The purchaser flipped it on ebay where it fetched about $325. But the Baker had more than just yellow colors. It had some green, too. And Baker's skin was quite pink. I think it was basically just missing the blue. That's why I didn't think much of it. Really, I found it to be quite ugly. <br /><br />I put a post on the B/S/T for it and got about three people interested at a price point above $200. Many other people expressed interest, but most fell out of the running when I told them I had been offered about $250-$300 in cards/cash.<br /><br />Anyway, Matty has quite a following, so I would expect this card to fetch between $1,500 and $2,000. Perhaps more if two Matty collectors get into it.

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Posted By: <b>Brett</b><p>what other HOF'ers are their with the colour missing ?

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Posted By: <b>John</b><p>Where's www.cardpricer.com when you need them???

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Posted By: <b>B.c.Daniels</b><p>you are so funny and thanks for the Estrada pic!<br /><img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />did you see my CJ Matty? <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Joe P.</b><p>This is no time to blow an opportunity of pricing immortality, and credibility. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />To earn the above, you have to walk the talk.<br />We want those prices, and we want 'em Free. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>Damian</b><p>Josh,<br /><br />I bought a Baker from a fellow board member recently. Not sure if its the one being talked about here on this thread or not. I sent it in for grading and PSA slabbed as a one. Looks much nicer than that,but has a small amount of paper loss on the back, and doesn't really have the creasing the Matty does, and I think the Matty is trimmed. Anyway, it will be on ebay soon and should give you an idea of what your Matty would fetch. My guess is your card will garner a bit more than my Baker. We should know in a week or so. PM me, Josh, and I will give you the item number when it goes up so you can watch it. I am glad I can help for once here instead of being helped.<br /><br />Damian

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Posted By: <b>T206Collector</b><p>...I do not think it's a good test specimen for the Mathewson, because that Baker was only missing the blue -- his skin was pink, there was some green, and, of course, yellow. The Matty is only the yellow, which I believe is the first stage of the coloring process. Blue, I believe, was the last stage of the process, and it missed just that one.

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Posted By: <b>Cobby33</b><p>I had a Seymour I sold in the $500 range. <br />I realize that you are likely going to list is as raw, but to whomever buys it, don't send yours to SGC. They'll send it back claiming they don't know what to do with it.

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Posted By: <b>Jim Rivera</b><p> <br /><br />will hays sold a batch of these not so long ago-same back. <br />don't remember any selling at 5k or even 2k but you never know

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Posted By: <b>Damian</b><p>Cobby,<br /><br />Sent the Seymour in at the same time as the Baker to PSA. They holdered as authentic. Thanks for the card!<br /><br />Damian

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Posted By: <b>Robert</b><p>THere is a card just listed on EBAY that looks like it came from the same sheet as this Matty. Same back and everything.<br /><br /><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/1909-11-T206-PRINT-Incomplete-ERROR-PSA-Authentic_W0QQitemZ8761710501QQcategoryZ31718QQrdZ 1QQcmdZViewItem" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/1909-11-T206-PRINT-Incomplete-ERROR-PSA-Authentic_W0QQitemZ8761710501QQcategoryZ31718QQrdZ 1QQcmdZViewItem</a><br /><br />Just listed and already at almost $300.00 It's a Murphy batting and does'nt have the same fire power as this Matty but should give you a nice gauge to price it out.