The History behind the cards is what's most fun.

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Posted By: <b>Genaro</b><p>I was enjoying a recent thread about the 1888 Syracuse Stars Cabinet. I looked up some information about the card. I then found more information about Moses Fleetwood Walker. Surprisingly the information at the Negro Leagues Hall of fame was very generic. I really enjoyed the article on jockbios.com<br />Very in-depth and very sympathetic to his life. Heres e few links I found on the subject hope someone else enjoys the information as much as I have. I try to find as much information about each player when I obtain there card as possible. I think I may put together a bio and stats on each player in a scrap book with each card or something. I am still working on ideas for that but I think this is what collecting vintage cards is all about preserving history along the way.<br />LINKS<br /><a href="http://www.nlbpa.com/walker__moses_fleetwood.htm" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.nlbpa.com/walker__moses_fleetwood.htm</a><br /><a href="http://www.jockbio.com/Classic/Walker/Walker_bio.html" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.jockbio.com/Classic/Walker/Walker_bio.html</a><br /><a href="http://www.oberlin.edu/external/EOG/OYTT-images/MFWalker.html-0" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.oberlin.edu/external/EOG/OYTT-images/MFWalker.html-0</a><br /><a href="http://members.tripod.com/bb_catchers/catchers/1black.htm" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://members.tripod.com/bb_catchers/catchers/1black.htm</a><br /><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/w/walkefl01.shtml" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.baseball-reference.com/w/walkefl01.shtml</a><br /><a href="http://www.africanamericans.com/MosesFleetwoodWalker.htm" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.africanamericans.com/MosesFleetwoodWalker.htm</a><br /><a href="http://www.miamisci.org/youth/unity/Unity1/Kareem/pages/FleetWood.html" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.miamisci.org/youth/unity/Unity1/Kareem/pages/FleetWood.html</a>

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Posted By: <b>Mike M</b><p>Great post. I look forward to the next one. I like the scrapbook idea. Just like the old days, except now you can use scans instead of the actual cards.

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Posted By: <b>identify7</b><p>I do that too, Genaro. Actually, I select cards which represent baseball achievements, such as the breaking of Sisler's season hits record. This sometimes yields a modern card. I also collect cards which represent seasonal occurances which are not records, but are unusual. An example of this includes Slim Sallee achieving more Wins than Walks yielded in 1919.<br /><br />As far as the scrapbook/narrative presentation: Im working on a art board cut out sandwich with archival protection for the card; which can slip into a three ring binder full page sleeve.

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Posted By: <b>Chris Counts</b><p>Great article on jockbios.com ... I agree that one of the best things about finding an old card or photo is learning about the player. For this reason I know more about Sammy Bohne and One Wing West than I know about some Hall of Famers.

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Posted By: <b>Chad</b><p>In fact, I think I can out geek you. If I ever get the time, I'd love to create a Diamond Mind "card" for each of the players I have a card of and bring them back to "life" by having them play each other. I'd even include my Negro League players in this. But, if I ever started this project, I think my girl would dump me. Decisions, decisions... <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />--Chad

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>Owww, another Diamond Mind fan. Thought I was the lone fool here. I've mentioned the game a few times here and no one has ever mentioned owning the game or playing it.<br /><br />Jay- still playing the 1887 season<br><br>I've just reached Upper Lower Class. I am now officially a babe magnet for poor chicks.

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Posted By: <b>Chad</b><p>I play one contemporary league and one "prgression" league where you work your way through baseball history one season at a time. We're on 1928 now. I would think playing historical simulated baseball would be right up the alley of many people on this board. I occasionally buy a card of somebody--Bill Doak or Babe Herman, for example--because they're on my DM team. Gawd, do I need help. Or a job that keeps me busier. <br /><br />--Chad

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>I don't know if you've played any of the 19c seasons, but unless you've played them, people really have no clue how absolutely frustrating the game was back then when you have a modern perspective on the game. 10 or more errors per game between both teams is norm from that era.<br /><br />Everyone likes to toss around the numbers of players to show how great they are, etc, but unless you've played a game like DM, you have no clue as tot eh context of how the numbers were created. Playing the game has given me a whole new outlook on players and their numbers from that era.<br /><br />the next season I am going to play is 1911 and after that 1930. Should be very interesting.<br /><br />Jay<br /><br />I've just reached Upper Lower Class. I am now officially a babe magnet for poor chicks.

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Posted By: <b>Chad</b><p>When you play these games in context, it's amazing how unimpressive some of those hitting stars from the 30's are, and how underappreciated some of the pitchers are. The 19th century sounds fun, too. I've seen sites on line where you can download PCL and Federal league seasons. I think there's some Japanese League stuff out there, too. Man, I just don't have the time for all of it.<br /><br />--Chad<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Mike Campbell</b><p>It is on occasion, fun to ponder where each old card came from, who first purchased it, and where is that person today, and what happened to them over their lives? Since it was most often children who originally purchased most of them, many of them may still be living. late 19th century obviously does not apply to that last statement. I still have all my cards from the 60's, so I know what happended to me.

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>Obiviously, William Orsatti was the owner of the ths card at one time<br /><br /><img src="http://www.attic2cash.net/cards/gehrig.jpg"><br /><br />Jay<br><br>I've just reached Upper Lower Class. I am now officially a babe magnet for poor chicks.

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Posted By: <b>warshawlaw</b><p>"Then Johnnie Reccius and Fritz Pfeffer, of the Eclipse nine, walked off the field and went to the club house, while others objected to the playing of the quadroon."<br /><br />I wonder if Louisville player Reccius has a connection to the company that made the Wagner cigar card?