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01-20-2006, 10:23 AM
Posted By: <b>Scot York</b><p> "1888 The Buffords and Sons Litho Co." printed on bottom left front corner. Measure 5" X 3 1/4" . Thin stock. A & P Baking Powder ad on back. I like the early graphics but, know nothing else about them. Anybody else know anything about this issue?<br /><br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1137781121.JPG"> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1137781171.JPG"> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1137781217.JPG"> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1137781265.JPG"> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1137781316.JPG">

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01-20-2006, 10:38 AM
Posted By: <b>Josh K.</b><p>all I know is that the artist was apparently not a baseball player or else he wouldnt have drawn a batter where the shortstop should be standing (card on top right).

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01-20-2006, 10:41 AM
Posted By: <b>Scot</b><p> Josh,<br /> Could we be looking at a play on a triple and a batter on deck.

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01-20-2006, 10:53 AM
Posted By: <b>Scot</b><p> I know, the batter threw the bat and that's the 3rd base coach retrieving it. Looks strange to me too.

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01-20-2006, 10:53 AM
Posted By: <b>Bruce Babcock</b><p>I also have "Chance for a Kick," but I really don't know anything about the issue. Mine is an A&P card but it advertises tea rather than baking powder. I like the graphics as well.

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01-20-2006, 11:01 AM
Posted By: <b>Scot</b><p> Interesting Bruce,<br />Does your card have "Buffords & Sons Litho co." in the bottom left corner as well?

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01-20-2006, 12:01 PM
Posted By: <b>Scott Mosley</b><p>Hi Scot,<br /><br />I don't know anything more about the trade cards than you already know but I have one as well which I actually had SGC holder a month or two back.<br /><br />Here is a front and back scan (which you can also see on my website) from before it was holdered.<br /><br /><img src="http://home.comcast.net/~jillmay5/baseball/Type/A_P_Trade_Card_Front.JPG"><br /><br /><img src="http://home.comcast.net/~jillmay5/baseball/Type/A_P_Trade_Card_Back.JPG">

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01-20-2006, 12:24 PM
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>You have the complete set of Bufford Lithos at four, and they are considered by trade card collectors among the most beautiful of that era. One of my very favorite trade card sets.

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01-20-2006, 03:02 PM
Posted By: <b>Seth B.</b><p>Just as a variation, I have "A Short Stop" with a different ad back, from "The G.A.T. Co." for a give away of a parlor lamp and Tea set with a date on it, July 2nd 1888 and a stamp extending the date to Oct. 1st. I'll see if I can't get a scan up later this weekend...

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01-20-2006, 03:25 PM
Posted By: <b>fkw</b><p>The ACC#/name of the set is H804-3 Buffords Sons Lith. Co. they are from 1888. There are 4 differet cards in the set, "A brush with the ball", "A Short Stop", "Chance for a kick", "The Umpires lot not a happy one". The Buffords cards are more common than most Victorian Baseball Trade Cards but one of the nicer looking sets. I see about 10-20 on eBay a year. When I have them I usually sell them for $25-$45 ea. Nice pick up.<br /><br />Frank

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01-20-2006, 03:46 PM
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Ten years ago I had no trouble getting $100 apiece for them in nice shape. Just another example of how the internet has diluted the market for something.

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01-20-2006, 09:16 PM
Posted By: <b>Scot</b><p> Thanks for the information. It's always nice to find out your set is complete. I paid less than a $100/set and was pleased with the quality of the graphics. No creases as a bonus.

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01-21-2006, 10:07 AM
Posted By: <b>Bruce Babcock</b><p>Scot, yes my copy does have the "Buffords & Sons Litho co." in the bottom left corner.

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01-21-2006, 10:55 AM
Posted By: <b>Seth B.</b><p>Here's another back variation. The front is the same, "Short Stop." Neat date on the ad and stamp...<br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1137869691.JPG">

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01-21-2006, 02:35 PM
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>I think there are many possible ad backs but to have one with a red overprint and date should be worth a premium. That's much less common.

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01-22-2006, 12:57 PM
Posted By: <b>pete</b><p>hey josh, i think that back then the batters where allowed to carry their bats around the bases in case someone tried to tag them out! then they could hit the guy with it, they lost a lot of ball players so they changed the rules...(at least thats how i would of played)<br /><br />pete-

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01-22-2006, 01:01 PM
Posted By: <b>Joe Jones</b><p>ouch! Is that what you call breaking up the double play.