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Posted By: <b>Cat</b><p>This lady has over 2,000 feedback and she just listed a 1914 CJ Jackson. Oddly enough it has the same EXACT carmel staining as another graded 1914 on EBay right now. Compare the two.<br /><br /><br /><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8752783937&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8752783937&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1</a><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/1914-Cracker-Jack-Joe-Jackson-103-SGC-50_W0QQitemZ8752230127QQcategoryZ57993QQssPageName ZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/1914-Cracker-Jack-Joe-Jackson-103-SGC-50_W0QQitemZ8752230127QQcategoryZ57993QQssPageName ZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem</a><br><br>Edited to correct typos unless otherwise noted.

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Posted By: <b>Cat</b><p>For the sake of full disclosure, I am the owner of the graded version now on EBay. I am going to give the lady a chance to take it down on her own and if she does not report it to EBay.<br><br>Edited to correct typos unless otherwise noted.

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Posted By: <b>davidcycleback</b><p>My guess is that the other seller looks closer<br />to Jim Ignatowski that the woman in the image.

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>I wonder what the full story is. The seller using the stolen scam obviously deals in PSA slabbed cards, yet doesn't bother to get this one slabbed? All their other auctions have nice clear picture of the card and slab, yet this is a heavily pixilated and tightly cropped picture. <br /><br />Jay<br><br>I've just reached Upper Lower Class. I am now officially a babe magnet for poor chicks.

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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>If that's Jeannie in the picture she ain't too bad lookin'......

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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>I've bought many cards from that seller..never had a problem...very strange. Cat, what was his/her response other than stopping the auction?

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Posted By: <b>Alan</b><p>Leon - I was going to say the same thing....<br /><br />She's been trying to sell the Harry Newman on ebay for a few years now:<br /><br /><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/1955-Topps-Football-A-A-62-HARRY-NEWMAN-PSA-10-MINT_W0QQitemZ8750372109QQcategoryZ86857QQssPageNa meZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/1955-Topps-Football-A-A-62-HARRY-NEWMAN-PSA-10-MINT_W0QQitemZ8750372109QQcategoryZ86857QQssPageNa meZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem</a>

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Posted By: <b>Anson</b><p>Maybe the auction wasn't for the CJ SJ but was ..........nevermind

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Posted By: <b>Al Crisafulli</b><p>Weird...this is a reliable seller. Usually offers graded 1950s football cards, but also offers baseball. I've never won any of her auctions, but know others who have been very satisfied.<br /><br />-Al

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>Could be another case of a seller taking a card on consignment without having possession of the item. Can't believe people are dumb enough to do that, but we've already seen it once.<br /><br />Jay<br><br>I've just reached Upper Lower Class. I am now officially a babe magnet for poor chicks.

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Posted By: <b>fdnyladder7</b><p>Wondering if "she" should change her name to Genie. <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1137513348.JPG">

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Posted By: <b>Cat</b><p>I have not had a response from her yet. I did state in my message to her that since she had 2,000 feedbacks that "I hoped that this was just an issue with an untrustworthy consignee." <br /><br />I never would have caught this, but when it came up, I saved it in my watched items. Last night, I picked up my card off of my desk and wanted to check for differences in the two cards, believing hers must be a reprint or a 1915 or something. But when I started looking...DAMN... the same exact stains and marks.<br><br>Edited to correct typos unless otherwise noted.

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Posted By: <b>Cat</b><p>I just noticed that the same seller has a rose card rookie...the front is not cropped to tight. The back is cropped tight but you can see the outline of the holder (at the top) in the scan although she is alluding to the card being ungraded.<br><br>Edited to correct typos unless otherwise noted.

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Posted By: <b>tbob</b><p>if you think that picture is the seller, I have some swamp land in Arkansas to sell you...

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Posted By: <b>J Levine</b><p>often means a hijaked account...

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Posted By: <b>fdnyladder7</b><p> I asked "her" if the Jackson will be relisted...<br /><br /><br /> Response from jeannie15a <br />Item: 1963 Topps Baseball # 537 PETE ROSE Rookie .Nr Perfect (8752614173) <br />This message was sent while the listing was active. <br />jeannie15a is the seller. <br /> <br /> <br /> <br />Hi tia...The CJ Jackson card will be listed next week<br /> Respond to this question in My Messages. <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> <br />

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Posted By: <b>Jon &amp; Jennifer</b><p>Ummmmm...okay, re the photo of "Jeannie" on the auction page...maybe it's just me, but does anyone ELSE find this particular selling "tactic" to be somewhat odd (or just downright tacky???)

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Posted By: <b>andy becker</b><p>sex sells.<br />now if i tried that, mama would not be pleased. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br />and, if you saw my pic on my auctions......let's not even go there.<br /><br />i'm with mr tbob.....that jeannie is a reprint

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Posted By: <b>Scott Gross</b><p>Just thinking .... do you think any of "us" would increase ebay sales if we included a photo of ourselves sitting on the porch in our underwear ??? <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>Chris Mc</b><p>Looks like Shania Twain sells under the assumed name of Jeannie. Learn somthing new every day.

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Posted By: <b>fdnyladder7</b><p>Com'on Jeannie, show us the real you. <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1137524962.JPG">

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Posted By: <b>whycough</b><p> I've checked out "her" auctions for a long time: she's listed a lot of '51 Bowman Mantles. Hard to believe that after all these years and cute pictures . . .

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Posted By: <b>Sanzapatos</b><p>The girl is a lure. Probably not even someone the seller knows. A guy I bought a mixed lot of Gaettis from used to put up a pic of Brady Anderson wearing nothing, with his outfielder's glove over you-know-where, just to help sell his stuff. <br /><br />Nevertheless, Cat, I hope you get that situation resolved. It's bizarre to have someone with so many positive feedbacks and firsthand experirences (from people here) suddenly do something shady.

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Posted By: <b>Cat</b><p>The plot thickens:<br /><br /><a href="http://uaprofiler.com/profiles/profile.php?id=1706" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://uaprofiler.com/profiles/profile.php?id=1706</a><br /><br /><br /><br />Don't even ask me how I came across this pic., but please supersize that first picture!!! Hilarious!!!<br /><br />Editted to say: Any thought that may be Jeannie in the picture is out the window...but at least she has her Ukrainian passport.

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Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p>but I have to ask you how you came across this.<br />That is incredible. <br />Say it ain't so, Jeannie!<br />I have purchased some football cards from her in the past without a problem. Who's going to send her the link?

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Posted By: <b>Cat</b><p>"Who's going to send her the link?"<br /><br />I don't know, but we have to get this guy on here. This is so pathetically funny.<br><br>Edited to correct typos unless otherwise noted.

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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>are dashed <img src="/images/sad.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>Al Crisafulli</b><p>How on earth did you find that?<br /><br />-Al

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Posted By: <b>Anson</b><p>Shame on Olga for posing to be the real Jeanne<br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1137559639.JPG">

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Posted By: <b>Joe P.</b><p>*<br />leon <br />(Premier Login leonl)<br />Forum Owner January 17 2006, 10:06 PM <br /><br />"my hopes are dashed" <img src="/images/sad.gif" height=14 width=14><br />*<br />*<br />*<br />All you have to do is dump a few of your E92 red back Croft's and get your a$$ over to the Ukraine.<br />Wheeeling and deealing in Ukrainian Mantle's shouldn't be that difficult. ..... and then you have Jeannie. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /> <br />

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Posted By: <b>Cat</b><p>Well Jeannie read our thread, after I asked her to "check it out" and this is her e-mail comments back to me:<br /><br /><br /><br /><br />Hello Cat ~ <br />Thank you for the gossip page link with me being the villainous topic.<br />In a word -- Funny ~~ Literally and Truly --- FUNNY ~~ I wasn't going to respond to this at all but I admit I was curious..Call me naive, uninformed, dumb etc but I never heard of the Vintage BB Forum ever,and honestly, pardon my bluntness , I could care less..The threads in that room , or gossip chatterbox matter NOT in my life...I read the comments and smiled and laughed at most of them..Perhaps I just should say to all the participants there -- GET A LIFE GUYS, but the sad truth seems that to all THE GUYS in that forum..THAT IS YOUR LIFE...Oh well...I'll not be cruel and I will refrain from saying what I know about the many male collectors I've met & spoken with over the years..<br />To ALL THE GUYS who commented about me via the Vintage Baseball Forum WITH all THOSE HILARIOUS COMMENTS I just want to sincerely thank those few guys who DIDN'T Lynch me in the Wild "without a trial"..Also..I want to say to the others to THINK for a moment of this. I am a member of Ebay since 1998..mostly as a buyer in the early years, then I acquired a LARGE quantity of NICE, BEAUTIFUL old Cards from my Dad & male relatives a few years ago. I am 33 y/o, married with 2 small children ( 5 and 1) and who can convert that cardboard into money from the "safety" of my home to help my family (like you all do). I too HAVE been "bitten" by the collector bug and I /we have some pretty nice old football PSA Sets... My feedback speaks for itself..I have ONE Negative feedback as a Seller and 11 negs as a Buyer ( a ripped off, taken advantage of BUYER)..I AM Jeannie. I HAVE had my photo Pirated several times and unpleasantly shocked and surprised at its landing places..and THE ONLY Reason I use it (against advice of my Husband) is/was to STOP the never-ending sexual questions of "How Old am I" ? What do I look Like ? within the framework of Ebay and my auctions, etc, etc. I guess I should STOP using it because everyone sort of knows me by now..Lastly..I am also somewhat flattered by names I don't even know in the "Forum" who have "checked me out".ie, my auctions over the years of 1951 Mickey Mantles, & my PSA 10 Harry Newman,and others. In closing I say with all heartfelt sincerity and truth that I would NEVER intentionally cheapen "My Ebay"<br />I DON'T Need nor Want return replies emails CAT, but u can pass this on to THE GUYS in the Forum for their information...I hope it helps but I cannot and will not be let the opinions and comments of a few knock me away from my priorities..<br />Sincerely, <br />Jeannie Dee <br /><br><br>Edited to correct typos unless otherwise noted.

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Posted By: <b>MW</b><p>I've done business with Jeannie before I and believe her. I also know of someone who saw her and her husband at the National. I think that's really her and I think she really looks like that.

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Posted By: <b>Cat</b><p>MW:<br /><br />I am willing to possibly believe her, but have you ever seen this portrait picture in one of her auctions (the second picture - of the passport - in the link below). I have viewed a limited number of her auctions as well and don't believe I have seen it, and therefore I am not convinced by her "my photo was hijacked explanation." Also, I do not know if any one else noticed but she offered no explantion to why she used my scans in one of her auctions. Even if she looks like the photo, this would not escape explanation if most of us on the board would have drafted that e-mail.<br /><br /><br /><a href="http://www.uaprofiler.com/profiles/profile.php?id=1706" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.uaprofiler.com/profiles/profile.php?id=1706</a>

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Posted By: <b>MW</b><p>Cat,<br /><br />Some good points but Jeannie has posted numerous pictures of herself over the last several years. The fact that other sites might use some of them is unremarkable. <br /><br />As for the CJ Jackson, I really don't know. Ask Jeannie.

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Posted By: <b>fkw</b><p>I never heard of this Jeannie before this post, I wouldnt believe this "chic" unless I saw another picture of her holding a card or two. IMO I dont think that hottie in the picture has 2 kids and is 33, or even has cards. <br /><br />Also....... There is no way around using the scan of that E145-1 Jackson card. Bottom line..... Its an attempted scam! <br /><br />Reputation ruined<br /><br /><br /><br />Prove me wrong, post a picture hold a card or 2 honey!!

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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>My hopes are renewed. It really might be her. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> Though I am happily married to an understanding wife I can always look. (it's the 90 degree rule). As for selling any red back Crofts to subsidize a trip I probably won't do that. I might sell one to someone that won't do business with the thief that is selling one on ebay. That board member, while I won't reveal his name, scored HUGE points with me by telling that seller he's not going to buy that card as he doesn't want to do business with someone that blatantly, publicly admitted, stealing a card from me. That is someone with huge integrity in my book. best regards....modeator dude....

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Posted By: <b>Peter_Spaeth</b><p>The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

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Posted By: <b>Josh K.</b><p>"THE ONLY Reason I use it (against advice of my Husband) is/was to STOP the never-ending sexual questions of "How Old am I" ? What do I look Like?"<br /><br /><br />Does this not strike anyone as completely stupid? That is probably the same reason strippers strip - just so the guys they meet out in public will stop asking them to take their clothes off. I mean come on, not that Im complaining or anything, but if that were really your intent, instead of posting a half naked picture of yourself how about simply changing your user ID to say "Ralph15a."

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Posted By: <b>Mike Campbell</b><p>I was just curious as to the meaning of her snippet below:<br /><br /><br />Oh well...I'll not be cruel and I will refrain from saying what I know about the many male collectors I've met & spoken with over the years..<br /><br />And as far as having a life, I have a wonderful wife, two great kids, I own and run my own investment firm, and have a home on a large lake. I guess that qualifies as having a life. But again, I was just curious what Jeannie means by the above.<br /><br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Chad</b><p>are the last defense of a scoundrel, I think. I would imagaine most of us have interests outside this web site and this hobby, and, myself excluded, there's a hell of a lot of disposable income thrown around by the members of this board. But excluding even the cheap insults, why would you want to alienate what could potentially be a lot of high dollar customers. Sheesh. The stupidity of people never ceases to amaze me.<br /><br />--Chad

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Posted By: <b>Brent Butcher</b><p>I wasn't going to respond to this thread but with so many giving her a bad name......<br /><br />1. I have purchased cards from her through Ebay over the past several years with no problems what so ever. She has always had various pictures of herself or of an attractive woman.<br /><br />2. I have sold her a few cards with no problems what so ever.<br /><br />3. She has a few really nice sets registered on the psa site and has had them registered for a few years.<br /><br />I think sometimes we all jump on a "scam bandwagon" or judge others too quickly. I'm not saying the picture is her and frankly I don't care. I have bought and sold with her on a few occasions and never had a problem. I will continue to do so in the future if she has something I want on Ebay. On the 1914 CJ Jackson.....maybe it was a different card??? Ask her before making personal attacks.

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Posted By: <b>Bob</b><p>To clear everything up, this is a picture of the real Jeannie, shown at the recent National baseball card convention in Chicago. She was selling cards and showing off the latest in baseball card-theft prevention cages. If you look closely you will see Mike P., Tim N. and I in the background <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><img src=http://members.aol.com/trophybob/08.jpg>

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Posted By: <b>Joe P.</b><p>Asides from all the stains being in the right places.<br /><br />What say you about that left bottom corner? <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />Sneak a peek.

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Posted By: <b>Mike Campbell</b><p>Fully understood Brent. But It is hardly a way to endear yourself to a very large card buying market. Her tone could have been toned down a bit. A bit harsh don't you think? But I will take you at your word. Though I would never buy anything from her going forward. Not after her display.<br /><br /><br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Al Crisafulli</b><p>You know, my first reaction was that her response might have been a little harsh.<br /><br />Then I went and read this thread, on a public message board, as if I'd never read it before. Here's what I saw:<br /><br />1. Accusation of scam.<br />2. Negative comment about the seller's looks.<br />3. Suggestion that seller is not being forthcoming with the whole story.<br />4. Comment about the seller's looks.<br />5. Veiled accusation of scam.<br />6. Comment about seller lying about her appearance.<br />7. Statement questioning seller's tactics.<br />8. Statement questioning seller's tactics.<br />9. Comment about seller's looks.<br />10. Comment about seller lying about her appearance.<br />11. Comment about seller's looks.<br />12. Comment about seller lying about her appearance.<br />13. Comment from user doing detective work to find image on Ukranian website.<br />14. Comment about seller lying about her appearance.<br />15. Comment about seller lying about her appearance.<br /><br />Not that any of the comments in this thread were unjustified, but if I were a seller that had outstanding feedback and a decent reputation, and was pointed to a public website where people were making accusations, questioning my tactics, and making jokes about my appearance, I guess I'd probably respond a little harsh, too.<br /><br />I'd still love to know if it's the same CJ. The "raw" scan appears to be missing some of the staining along the lower-left border.<br /><br />-Al<br />

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Posted By: <b>Cat</b><p>Al:<br /><br />It is without a doubt the same scan. The caramel stains are dead on the same...every one. There is one identifying feature that I addressed with Jeannie as a dead give away...there is a mark under his nose (black buggar) that is very unique. Owning the card, I hardly noticed it, until one day I scanned it with super high resolution and there it was...not really noticeable, to any extent, with the naked eye, but definate in the scan view. When I get back to my home office, I will gladly insert that scan (Leon is going to allow the supersize version to understand my point), but now that you know, you will see it too, even in the smaller versions.<br /><br />I believe, I have not disparaged her but presented some facts. She didn't take anyone's money and dropped the listing very quickly after I brought it to her attention, so I give her credit for that. But as many of us speculated, she did not state that it was just a mistake with a consignment she listed. It makes you wonder. WIWAG was a credible entity some years ago too. I have my own story about that...having at one time owned seven PSA 8 Pete Rose rookies...six of which had originated from WIWAG even though I had only directly purchased one from them. Messy!!!<br><br>Edited to correct typos unless otherwise noted.

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Posted By: <b>scott ingold</b><p>My thoughts exactly Josh.<br /><br />There still is no way around the Jackson and the listing being dropped. People do build feedback and go for a killer sale. Who know's the reasons........but i think this seller has a damaged rep now. Imho this is well deserved being that we still have no explanation regarding the aformentioned card.

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Posted By: <b>Al Crisafulli</b><p>I still see some differences between the two scans on the front, but the staining on the back is identical enough for me to believe that they're the same card.<br /><br />This is still pretty fishy to me, as it's not like this seller has been offering 1991 Fleer Football cards to boost her feedback in order to get one killer sale. This person has been dealing with reasonably high-dollar 1950s baseball and football cards for a long time. I find it hard to believe that she'd wreck her reputation on a fraudulent sale that the majority of enlightened collectors wouldn't fall for anyway.<br /><br />I'd love to know the full story behind this.<br /><br />-Al

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Posted By: <b>tbob</b><p>This whole thing sounds like so much horse-pucky to me. Jeannie says she is bombarded with sexual questions from prospective buyers of her cards? I have known several women who sold items on ebay, including cards, and never once have any of them been asked anything sexual or about their age, etc. That's idiotic. Even more inane is that her husband encourages her to post a cheescake picture of herself so people will know what she looks like and how old she is??? Great husband. My wife in her younger days was better looking than this gal and I would have NEVER thought of posting her image in shorts cut to her crotch on an internet board for all to see. Doesn't this guy think, "gee, maybe someone will see my picture and it would SPUR rather than deflect interest?" It makes no sense. <br />Secondly, she says that "Perhaps I just should say to all the participants there -- GET A LIFE GUYS, but the sad truth seems that to all THE GUYS in that forum..THAT IS YOUR LIFE...Oh well...I'll not be cruel and I will refrain from saying what I know about the many male collectors I've met & spoken with over the years.." What is this supposed to mean? A nasty little jab at the very people who support her business? That we are all some drooling, cheeto eating computer geeks who haven't had a date since God was a boy? The card hobby is just that to me, a hobby. The real life is family and work and anyone who knows me knows I have been fortunate to have been successful at both. <br />I agree with the above posters who question her intelligence at offending those who might purchase cards from her in the future. There are a helluva lot more people who read these boards than she thinks.<br />Al- I appreciate your attempts to be fair and we all have had a smile out of this thread, but you have to question what is happening here. I personally think "Jeannie" as in "I Dream of Jeannie Cards" is most likely a guy who is using a picture of someone (who cares?) to draw interest to his auctions. To each his own.

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Posted By: <b>davidcycleback</b><p>All a winner has to do is to send the check written out to Jeannie Dee. <br />Below the endorsement line write, "These funds are only for the seller <br />Jeannie Dee and this check cannot be endorsed by anyone else." If the seller's <br />name is Jeannie Dee she will have no problem cashing the check.<br />If the seller's name isn't Jeannie Dee the seller will have to request that<br />a new check be sent, written out to someone else.

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Posted By: <b>Sanzapatos</b><p>...it doesn't matter who "Jeannie" really iS. The card question, which is what raised this whole issue initially, was never even touched on. That's the Crux of the issue and "Jeannie" skirted around it 100%. Not exactly the way Anybody with integrity, honest intentions, and a breadth of card experience goes about defending theMselves, would you say? Especially not to a website full of her past and potential buyers. Read between the lines and it's obvious something's not right here.<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>scott ingold</b><p>Exactly......and that is why this WILL impact her/his auctions as it well should. I have also seen this being discussed on the cu boards + who knows how many lurkers there are.<br /><br />If i were Jeannie Dee and i had any kind of explanation for the stolen scan i would use it. That is why anyway you slice it there is something very wrong here nomatter who it is.<br /><br />I won't even go into the whole assinine reasoning behind posting a pic to AVOID sexual comments/questions. Gee a sexy pic of myself will make people more likely not say something instead of just using a genaric name.

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Posted By: <b>scott ingold</b><p>That is the west coast. I live at the Jersey shore and as said the sun does not set in the east.

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Posted By: <b>davidcycleback</b><p>I do not buy for one second that a woman selling <br />trading cards on eBay would post pictures of herself<br />in a bikini in the auction description.<br /><br />This whole episode goes under the 'Give Me a F**cking Break' file.

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Posted By: <b>Kevin Cummings</b><p>Scott Ingold, I'm surprised at you. You might have guessed that Jeannie was sitting at the end of my block on Long Beach Island gazing wistfully <b><u>westward</u></b> across Barnegat Bay wondering where your house was! <img src="/images/wink.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>scott ingold</b><p>Kevin,<br /><br />Ya never know. Put her down by the bathing beach behind fantasy island and she could be. BIG SMILE !!!!

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Posted By: <b>Al Crisafulli</b><p>"Last I checked, New Jersey is on the east coast and if you were on the Jersey Shore facing the ocean at sunset, it would be happening behind you, over land, in the west."<br /><br />Barnegat Bay. <br /><br />But also - us Jersey folk are occasionally allowed outside the state for vacations and such. Sometimes I even go watch the sunset on Cape Cod Bay, and they've even let me to a few islands and to Mexico. They even let me bring my camera, so I could take a sunset picture if I wanted.<br /><br />However, I'd sure like to know what the deal is with the card.<br /><br />-Al

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Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p>Yeah, but would you label your picture from Mexico "New Jersey 2005"?<br /><br />There may be places where the view across Barnegat Bay does not include LAND on the horizon, but that picture isn't one of them.<br /><br />That picture is as bogus as jeannie and "her" 1914 CJ Jackson auction.

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Posted By: <b>Josh K.</b><p>Hey Al,<br /><br />We all want to know about the card. But you have to admit that the lack of explanation plus the obvious lies regarding the picture(s) equal problems. As for the picture, if you look at the bottom, it states that the picture is of the New Jersey shore. Not Cape Cod, the west coast etc.

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Posted By: <b>Al Crisafulli</b><p>The company I work for has a website, and if you looked at the website, you'd think we were a much bigger company than we really are. The website was designed that way. We're not a big company at all.<br /><br />Lots of Ebay sellers refer to themselves as "we" in their "about me" page, or in their descriptions. Makes it sound like there's more than one person working there, diligently packing up cards back in the mailroom and getting them out to the loading dock before the 6PM pickup.<br /><br />Colonel Sanders is dead, but his picture is still on my chicken.<br /><br />To me, that stuff is irrelevant. It's all window-dressing, regardless of whether this is a real person or not. All that matters is that you get what you ordered. I'd like to know how I could expect to receive the card if I bought it, when someoone else on this board clearly owns it. Particularly when this seller has been so reliable in the past.<br /><br />-Al<br /><br />Edit: There's a whole string of beach from Island Beach State Park up the southwest section of the state where you look out across Delaware Bay, and it's very difficult to see land.<br /><br />Edited again because I'm a directional idiot.

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Posted By: <b>Jon &amp; Jennifer</b><p>I have been checking in from time to time throughout the day in order to read up on the latest on the Jeanniegate Scandal. Every time I think, okay, this thread has just about run its course, someone else comes up with another bit of bizarre and compelling info on our Miss Jeannie. <br /><br />Jeannie seems to be under the impression that except for Cat, all of the posts were made by ALL THE GUYS...<br /><br />'Taint necessarily so. As the very female, "Jennifer" half of the very-married "Jon & Jennifer" (as shown in our login name), please allow me to state for the record that I would NEVER, not in a million years, even for a moment consider posting a photo of myself on one of our auction pages, within our store -- or ANYWHERE on the web for that matter. (And Jon, as my other and very male-oriented better half, certainly would not advocate, suggest, or otherwise appreciate it if I did. Oh, let's be serious -- he'd be LIVID.) <br /><br />"Jeannie" in the photo is without a doubt a looker. Now, I'm not even trying to suggest that I've spent my life signing modeling contracts or posing for Penthouse -- but no one has ever kicked me out of bed or run away screaming in terror, either. (And despite the fact that I've had four, count 'em four, children, at 36 I'm still considered a youngun' by most standards, weigh exactly 100 pounds soaking wet, and even manage to get the ol' lookaroo from time to time when out and about.) All this in order to avoid having our largely male population view the opinion of THIS particular female poster as merely sour grapes from a bitter old troll (vintage wine, perhaps, but not sour grapes.) <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />Seriously, now, what woman in her right mind -- a married woman with children, so she claims -- would post a sexy photo of herself...and let me emphasize this point...all in order to sell....BASEBALL CARDS????? Egads.<br /><br />These are my theories, in no particular order of preference: <br /><br />(a) Either it's a guy using the photo in order to lure OTHER guys to the auctions (yes, sex sells, but it's particularly icky when a woman sinks to that level, and in many ways it would be better if it turned out to be a guy after all); <br /><br />(b) It IS a woman, but she is using a fake photo; <br /><br />(c) It is a woman, and she IS the woman in the photo. <br /><br />If (c) is true, it opens up far more questions than answers:<br /><br />(1) Why did she not once directly address the allegations made within the Ukranian website or the website itself? <br /><br />(2) Why did she not address the lifted scan of the card? (I agree with the opinion that the staining is identical in far too many areas to not be a stolen scan).<br /><br />(3) Why does she repeatedly address ALL THE GUYS in capitalized letters? (Which really does point to something interesting in and of itself, but I can't quite put my finger on what.) <br /><br />(4) She claimed that she was already aware that her photo had been stolen and used by nefarious persons many times in the past...if that were the case, then WHY in the world would you even consider putting your photo on the internet -- especially the very same photo that you say you "already know" was stolen and used by persons other than yourself in the past??? <br /><br />(4) This was said earlier, but truly bears repeating --- exactly what kind of moron tries to suggest that a sexy photo was intentionally posted on the internet...simply to AVOID sexual repartee and personal questions?? (Snicker, snicker)<br /><br />Another, slightly more sinister theory that hasn't been offered as of yet, is that Jeannie IS the Jeannie in the photo, and the Jeannie of Jeannie's cards...but is ALSO the "Olga" of the Ukranian website. I know, I know...but you never know...<br /><br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Anson</b><p>I'm still wondering why "Jeannie" hasn't responded to the latest concerns. "Jeannie" obviously knows how to find this thread and now faces some pretty tough questions to answer. <br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>davidcycleback</b><p>I agree with Al in that if a reputable male seller <br />of memorabilia or trinkets or diamond rings uses a made<br />up girl's name as company name or mascot, ala Betty <br />Crocker, and with matching photo, I would consider <br />that a minor issue at best. <br /><br />I went to the University of Wisconsin and didn't see one<br />badger on campus.

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>Badgers? We don't need no stinking badgers!<br /><br />Jay<br><br>I've just reached Upper Lower Class. I am now officially a babe magnet for poor chicks.

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Posted By: <b>Joe P.</b><p>...and with Jon's Permission. (an old Latino sign of respect)<br /><br />That was a stunning summation of the JeannieGate Caper.<br />You are a gorgeous lady with a brain -- No Pictures Needed.<br />My compliments to both you and Jon.<br /><br />Joe P.

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Posted By: <b>Joe P.</b><p>Funny ..... you don't look like a Sierra Madre Mexican? <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>David Smith</b><p>Hello,<br /><br />All Jeannie has to do is what some of you have suggested with suspicious cards; have her husband take a picture of her holding up a (recent) newspaper.<br /><br />Also, it would be nice if "she" answered the question about the Cracker Jack card.....

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Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p>--

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Posted By: <b>Josh K.</b><p>I agree completely. I guess Jeanie (who Im sure is still monitoring this thread) is just too consumed with her fulfilling and meaningful life to care about responding to the one issue that remains unanswered - why did she post a stolen scan?

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Posted By: <b>rob</b><p>Jeanie appears to get an ego trip with listings of cards she doesn't own as well as spending the extra $$ on the ebay picture hosting. Seems a little flaky, botttom line is she's delivering what she sells, which is all I would care about as a buyer.

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Posted By: <b>ramram</b><p>If you want to make any final opinions for yourself, just make sure you go look at her very first feedbacks on ebay. I think they'll show that she has had some "issues" with other accusations of fraudulent activity. <br /><br />Also note that in her very first feedback (that she actually left for HERSELF) she says she is 36. That was in 1998. She mentions in her response to Cat(earlier in this thread) that she is 33. Now, even if I'm not too good at math, it looks to me that she should be 43 by now....

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Posted By: <b>Jeff Lichtman</b><p>Obviously, Jeannie isn't who she claims she is on her listings, i.e. 33 years old, a doctor, a lawyer, an indian chief, etc. Frankly, I could give a rat's ass as long as I get the cards I've won from her/him. I also cannot imagine that someone spent more money on her auctions just because they sported a woodie while looking at the listing pictures. That being said, why on earth would someone with all of this positive feedback sell very expensive cards that he or she does not actually own? Very strange. All I can add is that I've bought from this seller before and have received perfect service. I would so, again -- as long as it's not a pirated CJ I was buying....

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Posted By: <b>Mike Campbell</b><p>aside from her being who she says she is, and her credability as an honest seller, that remains to be seen, but as far as her looks go, I am not sure everyone thinks she is so good looking, she reminds me of half the girls in my 11th grade class. Which I guess, was accepable when I was 17.

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Posted By: <b>ramram</b><p>Yes, who cares about her marketing strategy but...<br /><br />How many of you are still saying that you would be comfortable with buying a card from her in spite of the fact that she never addressed the question about the CJ card?<br /><br />Now, of those saying yes, how many of those would buy a $2000 card from her? <br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Mike Campbell</b><p>Not I.<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Alan</b><p>This thread has become entertaining to read. How long do you think it will continue before Leon locks it ?

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Posted By: <b>davidcycleback</b><p>My eBay user id is jeanshrimpton, but this is no more an <br />attempt to fool anyone than the ids 'mickeymantle7' or 'joltinjoe'<br />is an attempt to get buyers to beleive the Hall of Famer has arrisen <br />from the grave to sell chrome refractors. I had one buyer, well <br />aware my name wasn't Jean as he had bought before, ask who was this <br />Jean person, but I get the impression no one else cares what<br />name I use for my eBay id. My old eBay id for the same account was my <br />dog's nickname ('hankron'), and not a single potential bidder asked if<br />I took a flea bath before packaging.<br /><br />So there is no accidental eBay heartache: Below are pictured Henry <br />('hankron') and Jean. If you purchase a baseball card from me, neither <br />will be licking the envelope. Though I can assure you that at least one <br />has had a flea bath.<br /><br /><img src="http://www.cycleback.com/henry.jpg"><br /><br /><img src="http://www.cycleback.com/shrimp.jpg">

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Posted By: <b>Cat</b><p>Good point David, and by the way I am not a CatOnGlue although I did play for an intramural softball team called "Cats On Glue." (That's how I chose the name.) I wish I would have chosen a different name, but at this point I don't want to change it. Thank gawd I didn't name myself after my intramural basketball team ---&gt; "The Clap."

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Posted By: <b>Anson</b><p>Mine ebay name is Baldisbetter, but I'm not really bald...........yet. Give it a little time and it will be right on the money!

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Posted By: <b>Jon &amp; Jennifer</b><p>Ours is josepheenella...but we're neither a Joseph nor an Ella. Josepheen (for Josepheen Baker) and Ella (a long-ago beloved dog of my hubby's)= josepheenella.

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Posted By: <b>Steve</b><p>Jeese cat I just noticed 750 visits to your auction.<br /><br />Good luck<br /><br /><br />Steve

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Posted By: <b>FunWithJeannie</b><p><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1137735608.JPG">

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Posted By: <b>Steve</b><p>LMAO

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Posted By: <b>Cat</b><p>Steve:<br /><br />Yeah, a lot of views but it is all about JeannieGate.<br><br>Edited to correct typos unless otherwise noted.