View Full Version : Kalamazoo Bats Boston Cabinet vs. Kalamazoo Bats Pittsburgh Cabinet

12-09-2005, 05:17 AM
Posted By: <b>Corey R. Shanus</b><p>Anybody understand why the Kalamazoo Bats Pittsburgh cabinet in the Mile High auction should sell for almost five times what the Kalamazoo Bats Boston cabinet sold for in Mastronet ($62.3K versus $13.5K)? Both had mediocre photos by Kalamazoo Bats standards and both are incredibly rare (one known of the Pittsburgh and two known of the Boston). While I understand that, counting the non-cabinet size Kalamazoo Bats, the Pittsburgh image is rarer, that is compensated (to at least some degree) by the fact Boston had more important players (e.g., Kelly, Radbourne) and was a more highly regarded team. I will agree that overall the eye appeal of the Pittsburgh is stronger, but a nearly 5 to 1 ratio in price seems amazing.

12-09-2005, 05:53 AM
Posted By: <b>Hal Lewis</b><p>My guess:<br /><br />Two big spenders already HAD the Boston card...<br /><br />but both still NEEDED the Pittsburgh card.

12-09-2005, 06:19 AM
Posted By: <b>Hal Lewis</b><p>BUT...<br /><br />you always have to remember that the REA auction is the only one (to my knowledge) where the OWNER of the card who consigned it to the auction CANNOT bid on his own card in order to drive the price up.<br /><br /><br />THUS...<br /><br />any time you see a very high bid in any other auction, there is ALWAYS the possibility of the seller bidding up the price and dragging the big spender along for the ride.<br /><br /><br />The only bad thing that could happen to the seller is that he pays the 16% buyer's commission and buys his own card back... but probably makes this up later when the card sells, because the public auction has made it "appear" that the card is "worth" whatever the final hammer price was. (Seller's fee is normally 0% nowadays on big items)<br /><br /><br /><img src="/images/sad.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br /><br />THIS,...<br /><br />of course, is why someone has realized that he would have to be an IDIOT to come on the boards and publicly announce that he will bid all night and pay whatever it takes to win a particular card.<br /><br /><br />I admit it. <br /><br /><br /><br />

12-09-2005, 06:50 AM
Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>The one in Mastro had minor restoration. There are many folks who don't want that in their collection, me being one of them.....Even a little bit of altering and I would always be looking at that instead of the beautiful photograph.....regards

12-09-2005, 09:32 AM
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>I too have to scratch my head on that price- everything is expensive today but that one does not make much sense, unique or not.

12-09-2005, 09:54 AM
Posted By: <b>Craig Lipman</b><p>I agree with Leon. I think the upfront disclosure of the restoration of the Boston cabinet turned a lot of collectors off who otherwise would have been interested.<br />The price of the Pittsburg isn't suprising given it is probably unique and still sold for less than the two recent kbat players on ebay.