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11-30-2005, 06:36 PM
Posted By: <b>John S</b><p>I have discussed this with Leon (Thanks Leon) before posting, so cast no stones! A new Board 54 forum for vintage football collectors has been created that will allow those of us who collect football as well to discuss topics related to pre-1979 football items. The address is listed below:<br /><br /><a href="http://www.network54.com/Index/50082" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.network54.com/Index/50082</a><br /><br />

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11-30-2005, 06:42 PM
Posted By: <b>andy becker</b><p>way to go john! see you on the dark side <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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11-30-2005, 06:47 PM
Posted By: <b>T206Collector</b><p>...about Knute Rockne and Jim Thorpe do you really need? I guess we're going to find out...

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11-30-2005, 06:48 PM
Posted By: <b>T206Collector</b><p>...other pre-war footballers that people care about?

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11-30-2005, 07:02 PM
Posted By: <b>andy becker</b><p>finish 1 tiny set and now you have an attitude <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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11-30-2005, 07:07 PM
Posted By: <b>Keith</b><p>Can't wait to visit this board. I am an avid Philadelphia Eagles/Frankford Yellowjackets collector but have a bunch of other vintage football items. This forum has been long overdue. thanks

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11-30-2005, 09:01 PM
Posted By: <b>davidcycleback</b><p>I suspect the football board will do well. It appears to be run by Gridiron Greats which I beleive is the only magazine on the subject of vintage football memorabilia. The publisher is runs a good ship.

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11-30-2005, 09:10 PM
Posted By: <b>joe brennan</b><p>I think the key was pre 79 football. I like the idea as I grew up a football collector. We didn't have a major league team where I grew up, but we did have a Football team, so I spent all my hard earn allowance in the 60's on football packs. <br><br>A scared man can't gamble and a jealous man can't work.

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12-01-2005, 02:05 AM
Posted By: <b>John S</b><p>I should have mentioned in my original post that Frank Rose, publisher of Gridiron Greats magazine, created the forum.

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12-01-2005, 05:09 AM
Posted By: <b>Alan</b><p>Great !!! Thanks to all.

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12-01-2005, 07:29 AM
Posted By: <b>JudgeDred (Fred)</b><p>DOes anyone have a Pele rookie - oops, wrong football...<br /><br />Great idea - quick question - Where does vintage football begin? Is it prewar? Which war?

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12-01-2005, 08:00 AM
Posted By: <b>ramram</b><p>The forum is considering anything prior to 1979 as vintage.<br /><br />As far as the begining of football...it would actually be pre-civil war. It started in the 1820's but didn't really make notice in the public until the 1850's/1860's. It started in the colleges back east. It was a hazing ritual known as "Bloody Monday" (on the first Monday of the school semester...guess Monday Night Football had some real roots) which pitted the sophmores against the freshmen. There was a ball involved which was kicked around but what actually followed was a big brawl. Everybody beat the crap out of each other. I actually have an 1861 letter describing this ritual. It pretty much evolved and stayed in the colleges until, I believe, around the turn of the century when there were some professional teams formed.<br /><br />Rob M.

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12-01-2005, 10:08 AM
Posted By: <b>Mark</b><p>Fred, if you're asking about prewar fb cards, the hobby's accepted first fb card is a college player in n162 (1888) - there are two such cards currently on ebay which is unusual. <br /><br />John, can you give us a primer on how many pre-WWII fb issues there are and which ones depict professional players rather than college? I can name 1926 Shotwells, 1926 Spalding, 1933 Sport Kings, 1935 National Chicle (the biggest prewar fb issue), 1930s Diamond Matchbooks, early 1930s Dixie Lids and premiums, some uncataloged 1913 and 1920s cards, but I'm sure I'm missing several if not many issues.<br /><br />(Or perhaps this should be continued on the fb forum.)

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12-01-2005, 12:01 PM
Posted By: <b>andy becker</b><p>hi mark<br />you hit all the mainstream issues except mayos.<br /><br />the football board NEEDS to discuss later issues, or we would shortly run out of things to talk about.<br />

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12-01-2005, 12:05 PM
Posted By: <b>davidcycleback</b><p>Gridiron Greats the magazine covers football cards, but also covers vintage football memorabilia including equipment, programs and autographs. It also covers vintage football history. No doubt all of those topics are acceptable for the Net54 football board ... For those interested in the subject, I recommend the magazine-- order at gridiorongreats.net. It's a quarterly, like Old Card Board, and is well run. They have articles from knowledgeable folk, I recall from Briant Wentz and the head of research for NFL Films.

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12-01-2005, 01:03 PM
Posted By: <b>JudgeDred (Fred)</b><p>Rob,<br /><br />I guess that means "prewar" football would be stuff before Grenada...<br /><br />

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12-01-2005, 01:06 PM
Posted By: <b>Josh Adams</b><p>Sounds great! <br />I look forward to seeing many threads about the Decatur Staleys!<br /><br />Bear Down!<br><br>Go Go White Sox<br />2005 World Series Champions!