View Full Version : Ty Cobb 1914 CJ fraud
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11-10-2005, 03:53 PM
Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p>hey all,<br /><br />This seller is selling a 1914 CJ that was sold already. <br /><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-1914-Cracker-Jack-Ty-Cobb-30-Baseball-Card_W0QQitemZ8721608170QQcategoryZ57993QQrdZ1QQcm dZViewItem" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-1914-Cracker-Jack-Ty-Cobb-30-Baseball-Card_W0QQitemZ8721608170QQcategoryZ57993QQrdZ1QQcm dZViewItem</a><br /><br />This is the same scan and description as this auction which ended:<br /><br /><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/1914-CRACKER-JACK-BASEBALL-CARD-TY-COBB-30-SGC-GRADED_W0QQitemZ8716837133QQcategoryZ86841QQrdZ1QQ cmdZViewItem" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/1914-CRACKER-JACK-BASEBALL-CARD-TY-COBB-30-SGC-GRADED_W0QQitemZ8716837133QQcategoryZ86841QQrdZ1QQ cmdZViewItem</a><br /><br />I received a scan from the seller of the card he is actually going to send the winner. It looks trimmed to me:<br /><br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1131666733.JPG">
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11-10-2005, 04:44 PM
Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p>the is the sad thing about ebay, you can lie and cheat ppl. i see now badly its trimmed. its real but not worth what ppl will pay on ebay. plus SGC doesnt grade trimmed cards.
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11-10-2005, 06:32 PM
Posted By: <b>Robert {Bigb13}</b><p><DIV>I don't think it was trimmed to fool somebody, a blind person could do a better job . If it was all four sides would look smooth. All four sides are to rough. Maybe it got messed up coming out of a scrapbook and some tried to fix it not with much luck. But it does look real to me also. Bigb13 {Rob}</DIV>
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11-10-2005, 08:16 PM
Posted By: <b>Mike W</b><p>am I missing something?.. won't the winner be a little suprised to receive a card not in its SGC holder as it is shown in the picture?<br /><br />Also, how did you get a hold of a pic of the card he plans on sending?
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11-10-2005, 08:28 PM
Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p>I brought the whole thing to his attention and asked for a better scan. The seller was very hostile at first.
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11-10-2005, 08:40 PM
Posted By: <b>Mike W</b><p>This looks like it was cut out from something. You can see the lines on the edges around the card. Anyone know where it could of possibly been cut out from?
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11-11-2005, 06:15 PM
Posted By: <b>Robert {Bigb13}</b><p><DIV>Not too long ago there was a CJ Cobb on ebay that was cut from some type of advertising sheet. Maybe this is another one. I guess we would have to see the back of the card. Rob</DIV>
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11-12-2005, 09:58 AM
Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p>that scan you were sent was not the scan of the card in the auction. Seems like would be frauds like the current auction could be more clever.
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11-12-2005, 10:12 AM
Posted By: <b>Cat</b><p>Do an EBay search of closed auctions. The card in the scan was recently auctioned by a reputable seller (I can't remember specifically who it was). It was described accurately as from a "cut out."<br /><br />The seller is obviously just grabbing existing scans from EBay auctions of the past.<br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1131955410.GIF">