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10-13-2005, 05:39 PM
Posted By: <b>Don J</b><p>Wow,<br /><br />Dealers are moving up in the world now-a-days <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> <br /><br /><br /><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/1919-Rogers-Hornsby-Authentic-EX_W0QQitemZ8708868079QQcategoryZ86841QQrdZ1QQcmdZ ViewItem" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/1919-Rogers-Hornsby-Authentic-EX_W0QQitemZ8708868079QQcategoryZ86841QQrdZ1QQcmdZ ViewItem</a>
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10-13-2005, 05:46 PM
Posted By: <b>BlackSoxFan</b><p>Wow! DNA ... i mean think of all the things that dna could tell you about a print card!! Maybe this card was actually printed by hornsby himself!!!! <br><br>Regards,<br /><br />Black Sox Fan<br /><br />- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -<br /><a href="http://www.blacksoxfan.com" target="new" border="0"><img src="http://www.blacksoxfan.com/images/art/sig.jpg"></a><br /><a href=mailto:shoelessjoe@blacksoxfan.com?subject=Ne t54>email me</a>
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10-13-2005, 05:47 PM
Posted By: <b>davidcycleback</b><p>At least he didn't say the dealer PSA tested it.
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10-13-2005, 06:04 PM
Posted By: <b>Anson</b><p>mmm.....that person has been a quality reprint seller too. I wonder if reprint DNA is different than real DNA
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10-13-2005, 06:11 PM
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>And wouldn't a DNA test cost hundreds of dollars at minimum to do, probably several times the value of the card?
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10-13-2005, 06:32 PM
Posted By: <b>Judge Dred (Fred)</b><p>It's a bastard card so how's the DNA test going to prove anything? I guess the DNA test proves age and not parentage in the case of cards. Silly us to doubt such a claim... <br /><br /><br /><br />
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10-13-2005, 06:34 PM
Posted By: <b>BlackSoxFan</b><p>Barry - you have to umderstand that when testing a baseball card for DNA ... money is no object! I recently had a piece of wood tested for dna...it came back as authentic wood from a tree...i was happy!<br><br>Regards,<br /><br />Black Sox Fan<br /><br />- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -<br /><a href="http://www.blacksoxfan.com" target="new" border="0"><img src="http://www.blacksoxfan.com/images/art/sig.jpg"></a><br /><a href=mailto:shoelessjoe@blacksoxfan.com?subject=Ne t54>email me</a>
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10-13-2005, 06:38 PM
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>You have to laugh at the idea of giving a baseball card a DNA test. How about giving a Joe Jackson card a lie detector test to see if he really threw the series. It's just so silly.
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10-13-2005, 06:52 PM
Posted By: <b>BlackSoxFan</b><p>Now even i have to laugh at that!!!! <br><br>Regards,<br /><br />Black Sox Fan<br /><br />- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -<br /><a href="http://www.blacksoxfan.com" target="new" border="0"><img src="http://www.blacksoxfan.com/images/art/sig.jpg"></a><br /><a href=mailto:shoelessjoe@blacksoxfan.com?subject=Ne t54>email me</a>
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10-13-2005, 07:53 PM
Posted By: <b>davidcycleback</b><p>Anytime an eBayer says the paper or ink on a cardstock has been tested by a scientific lab, it is dubious claim at best. A lab test of ink or paper usually requires removing a pieces of ink or paper from the card to test those samples (and they don't put them back on when they're done). Not only would the test be destructive to the card and cost a lot of money, it is almost never needed ... And, needless to say, there is no such thing as genetically testing baseball cards-- not even in paternity cases.
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10-13-2005, 08:40 PM
Posted By: <b>Anson</b><p>Maybe DNA stands for "Did Not Authenticate" in this particular auction.
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10-14-2005, 01:35 AM
Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>they must have changed the description because I don't see anything about DNA.<br /><br />Jay<br><br>Sometimes when I reflect on all the beer I drink I feel ashamed. Then I look into the glass and think about the workers in the brewery and all of their hopes and dreams. If I didn't drink this beer, they might be out of work and their dreams would be shattered. I think, "It is better to drink this beer and let their dreams come true than be selfish and worry about my liver."-- Babe Ruth
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10-14-2005, 09:39 AM
Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p>Now we'll never know who the card's father was!!!!!!!!!!
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10-14-2005, 09:51 AM
Posted By: <b>david</b><p>to answer barry's question to sequence the full genome is quite costly, on the order of several hundred thousands of dollars(a few years ago it was on the order of tens of millions). however, to do simple testing like you see on tv crime dramas the cost is on the order of less then 100 dollars for small scall and even less for large scale and is quite a routine practice in modern molecular biology.
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10-14-2005, 12:49 PM
Posted By: <b>davidcycleback</b><p>Though, from what I've gathered from Law & Order, these crime scene DNA tests require a sample from an acutal human instead of an ink reproduction on cardboard. <br /><br />Reminds of when my brother-in-law worked as phone help for computer company. He asked a woman on the telephone to send in a copy of her computer disk, and she mailed a Xerox copy that pictured her disc.<br /><br />It may be easy and cheap, but a collector who uses a black light on a baseball card is performing a scientific test. The brightness and color of the fluorescence originates at the atomic level of cardstock.
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10-14-2005, 01:43 PM
Posted By: <b>BlackSoxFan</b><p>OUCH....<br /><br /> <br />"I didn't mean dna, I meant certified.You can no longer bid on my items, officially blocked."<br /><br /><br />man am i bummed<br /> <br /> <br /><br><br>Regards,<br /><br />Black Sox Fan<br /><br />- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -<br /><a href="http://www.blacksoxfan.com" target="new" border="0"><img src="http://www.blacksoxfan.com/images/art/sig.jpg"></a><br /><a href=mailto:shoelessjoe@blacksoxfan.com?subject=Ne t54>email me</a>
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10-14-2005, 02:44 PM
Posted By: <b>davidcycleback</b><p>Certified would require the opinion of a different kind of doctor. Maybe if a parent or scool counselor had taught baseball cards how to get in tough with their feelings there wouldn't be the need for cards to be certified years later.
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10-14-2005, 03:28 PM
Posted By: <b>BlackSoxFan</b><p>I would love to point this thread out to that person see what kind of excuse they can come up with!!! haha<br><br>Regards,<br /><br />Black Sox Fan<br /><br />- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -<br /><a href="http://www.blacksoxfan.com" target="new" border="0"><img src="http://www.blacksoxfan.com/images/art/sig.jpg"></a><br /><a href=mailto:shoelessjoe@blacksoxfan.com?subject=Ne t54>email me</a>
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10-19-2005, 05:33 PM
Posted By: <b>BlackSoxFan</b><p>Bumpage<br><br>Regards,<br /><br />Black Sox Fan<br /><br />- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -<br /><a href="http://www.blacksoxfan.com" target="new" border="0"><img src="http://www.blacksoxfan.com/images/art/sig.jpg"></a><br /><a href=mailto:shoelessjoe@blacksoxfan.com?subject=Ne t54>email me</a>