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09-26-2005, 03:43 PM
Posted By: <b>will watson</b><p>probably a dumb question, but why is the OJ Anson "in uniform" valued so much higher than his suit card?
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09-26-2005, 03:51 PM
Posted By: <b>Chris Bland</b><p>The Anson/uniform card is extremely scarce - I believe there are only 5 known. That, coupled with the fact that Anson was the biggest star of the 19th century, makes it an extremely desirable card.
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09-26-2005, 05:59 PM
Posted By: <b>Rob</b><p>I beg to differ - not on the scarcity part. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br />Now, before I get flamed, I'm no historian, but I'm sure there were one or two others that were just as big. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>
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09-26-2005, 06:13 PM
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>I know of four copies- three in private collections and one in the Burdick collection. I don't know anyone who knows of a fifth one. Can anybody confirm a fifth? I am assuming 5 was just a guess.
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09-26-2005, 06:20 PM
Posted By: <b>zach</b><p>Three are in private collections and one is in Burdicks.....his saying five was probably just a guess. Who knows a fifth one is probably out there in some trunk in a barns loft lol.
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09-26-2005, 07:24 PM
Posted By: <b>Jay Miller</b><p>Barry--The question as to whether a fifth copy exists may come from speculation as to whether there is one in Wharton Tigre's collection at the British Museum. I do not know whether he had one. Either way, that still leaves only three in private hands.
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09-26-2005, 08:32 PM
Posted By: <b>damian</b><p><br /><br /><a href="http://www.capanson.com/baseball_cards.html" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.capanson.com/baseball_cards.html</a><br /><br /><br />this link says 5
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09-26-2005, 08:41 PM
Posted By: <b>Chris Bland</b><p>I thought I had remembered coming up with the number 5 from somewhere - it was in a thread i had started.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.network54.com/Forum/message?forumid=153652&messageid=1079465111" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.network54.com/Forum/message?forumid=153652&messageid=1079465111</a><br /><br />The last one sold at aution for 66k in 2003? Sounds like a real good deal these days! Wonder what one would bring now if one of the three owners decided to sell...<br /><br />Chris
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09-26-2005, 08:42 PM
Posted By: <b>Judge Dred (Fred)</b><p>The text next to the picture states the following:<br /><br /><b>Sold at auction in 2003 for $66,500 (5 known to exist)</b><br /><br />I wonder how much one would sell for today? I'm guessing 6 figures for sure.
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09-26-2005, 08:43 PM
Posted By: <b>Wesley</b><p>That does seem like a bargain in light of the fact that California League commons in PR condition sell for almost as much.
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09-26-2005, 09:48 PM
Posted By: <b>Anson</b><p>Looking at it from an unbiased viewpoint, I would still say that Cap Anson was the biggest star of the 19th Century. There are some other big names, but none seem to get the same attention or carry the value of Anson.
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09-27-2005, 07:45 PM
Posted By: <b>Paul</b><p>I see Anson as a pioneer, but Mike Kelly was a greater all around player. I'm sure you disagree but it needed to be said.<br /><br />regards<br /><br />Paul
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09-27-2005, 09:40 PM
Posted By: <b>Anson</b><p>I would have thought that Brouthers or Delahanty would have been brought up instead of Kelly. If anything, most baseball historians feel that Kelly is overrated for his true accomplishments.<br /><br />Cap Anson's stats are far superior to Kellys in every category, other than stolen bases. A batting average 20 points higher, 1200 more hits, almost twice as many RBIs, and an OBP 25 points higher. Yes, Anson did play for several more years. I will agree, however, that Kelly was the best in the game for a few years. He also was very well rounded in all aspects of the game. But, I'm hard pressed to say that he was BETTER than Anson.