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09-21-2005, 10:38 AM

Posted By: tbobSounds like someone attending AA or NA or something <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> The best thing about being a night owl (the worst thing is lack of sleep) is picking up cards with low BINs on ebay that come on about midnight. Picked this up last night. Apparently someone else was night owling it too as the rest of the cards were gone by the time I bought it, printed out the web page, patted myself on the back, checked the MLB scores for late games and got back to ebay. <img src=http://members.aol.com/trophybob/speaker.jpg>

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09-21-2005, 10:46 AM

Posted By: AlanMazel Tov !!! Nice pickup !!! The card looks a lot nicer than what it's graded at. Alan

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09-21-2005, 11:07 AM

Posted By: barry arnoldMy name is ethicsprof (barry) and i, too, am a night owl--- pulling it off for nearly 40 years now. i got an sgc 40 davy jones 206 for a mere 22 bucks last night, thanks to my 'nightowlness.' great life. right, tbob!!! best, Barry

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09-21-2005, 11:30 AM

Posted By: Max WederI use a snipe service and sleep well at night <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> Max

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09-21-2005, 11:39 AM

Posted By: jay behrensI get home from work too late to get the midnight deals. Once in a blue moon, one will slip through to me. Usually a beat up lot that no one else wants becuase it is so ugly. Jay- who rarely goes to bed before 4am My place is full of valuable, worthless junk.

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09-21-2005, 12:01 PM

Posted By: GenoI moved to England just to wake up to the "midnight" deals!! OK, so actually the military moved me here, but it works just the same. Now if I want cricket cards, I do have to stay up late...

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09-21-2005, 12:08 PM

Posted By: tbobMax- I hear you but sometimes these cards appear with BINs for the first time at 12ish or 1ish and there is no way to snipe or they'll be long gone. Kind of like the B/S/T thread cards I always miss because someone always seems to beat me. They must be reading that thread 24/7. Bob

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09-21-2005, 12:12 PM

Posted By: Judge Dred (Fred)BINing a graded card is so mucheasier than pulling the trigger on a raw card unless the seller indicates a liberal return policy in the item descritpion. I've BIN'd a few things and you're right, the good deals go FAST!!! They are far and few between. Like you said the great deals on the BST cards are gone sooooo fast.

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09-21-2005, 12:21 PM

Posted By: RichardYou bought that Speaker before I could react. Nice card. I was looking at it and thinking about it and then - BAM - you struck. As for timing and the wee hours of the morning, living on the west coast has some advantages! <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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09-21-2005, 12:35 PM

Posted By: barrysloateBob- terrific pick up at an absurdly low price. It makes me wonder why people even bother with BIN's when they really don't know the value of their card. If he simply let the auction run its course, he probably would have gotten a minimum of double what it went for. And I'm asleep by 10:30. That's life. But I'm the one who wakes the roosters up in the morning so they can get everyone else out of bed.

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09-21-2005, 12:49 PM

Posted By: T206CollectorWhile I understand why some people should not use buy it now if they do not know the value of their auction, I think it is a great tool that is underused by sellers. I have definitely used BIN as a buyer on things where the price was a little higher than I would have liked to pay, but am able to avoid having to get into a bidding war, which is sometimes a real turnoff. I guess I am just surprised that more sellers who know the value of what they have do not use it to try to get the highest price out of the highest bidder. After all, the way ebay works, the seller is only getting a marginal increase over the SECOND highest bidder's bid. BIN and the B/S/T thread are the reasons I keep coming back to this site and ebay many many many many many many times a day...

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09-21-2005, 12:51 PM

Posted By: Cobby33Are we talking midnight EST? How often do these BINs come up? I'll have to stop watching MASH reruns and check out eBay!

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09-21-2005, 12:55 PM

Posted By: Marc S.<<I guess I am just surprised that more sellers who know the value of what they have do not use it to try to get the highest price out of the highest bidder. After all, the way ebay works, the seller is only getting a marginal increase over the SECOND highest bidder's bid. >> BIN is a tough thing from a seller's perspective. I certainly use it - and there have been times that I have absolutely made money by using it. But I don't think it is always so clear. A) If you have BIN, the BIN disappears after the first straight bid. Ebay is great for starting auctions low - but not so great [IMO] at starting auctions too high. Thus, often a card has a $10 or less opening bid, and the BIN disappears right away. B) Same as above, but BIN stays if you have a reserve. History has shown that most bidders eschew Ebay reserve auctions. C) There is always the fear of leaving money on the table. Especially with the run-up in so many pre-war sets lately, what would a proper BIN be? If the seller of the Zeenut Harry Rosenberg or Jimmy Reese cards put a BIN on their auction, they almost certainly would have lost hundreds of dollars. It's always hard to say for sure, of course, but I don't think many people were expecting Harry Rosenberg to go anything close to $1,250. There are dozens of such examples every week on Ebay.... ~ms

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09-21-2005, 01:14 PM

Posted By: T206CollectorI have definitely made real money using it in appropriate circumstances. Of course, I enjoy watching my cards get bid up higher than I would have placed a BIN, which pleasantly happens often enough that BIN is a real question. But, still, if used right, it can make you a bunch of money.

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09-21-2005, 01:16 PM

Posted By: Scott Elkinsespecially on the nice E90-1 Lajoie - great pickup Richard. Also, that was a terrific pickup as well Tbob. I had to settle for the SGC 10 E98 Young. It looked nice for a 10, so I thought "What the Hell?". Anyway, I can't complain too much after picking up the Red Cross Cobb with a Buy It Now. Though, that one was ungraded with very small scans - that one took more guts and eagle eyes than timing really!

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09-21-2005, 01:33 PM

Posted By: Josh K.the interesting think is that most of these cards being discussed were all purchased a few weeks ago by the same seller for less money. For example, the e98 young sold a few weeks ago for 375. The Speaker was offered to me in trade not to long ago and, I beleive, even on the bst thread. It also sold for about the same price several weeks ago in a full 7 day auction. still a great price on all the cards.

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09-21-2005, 02:20 PM

Posted By: Tim NewcombYes, that's the very same T213 Speaker I was offering on B/S/T recently, which many of you may have seen. Sold it for $265 about a week ago. The buyer was disappointed, apparently, in the condition, although everyone seems to agree it's accurately graded at 2.5. It does have blazing color and registration, but some people cannot abide creases, and it has two of them. Any of you guys could have had it for close to Bob's nite-owl deal if you'd done a little negotiating with me <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> Tim

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09-21-2005, 02:55 PM

Posted By: RichardBut I tried!

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09-21-2005, 08:38 PM

Posted By: Cobby33Thanks once again for the responses to my question.

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09-21-2005, 09:01 PM

Posted By: Dan KotelesMy name is tbob jr cause Iam a night owl too. The best deals are really really late or first ding in the morning.Good job TBOB !!!

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09-21-2005, 09:06 PM

Posted By: BillWow, I would think if people are going to put up cards like that they would at least do about a few days research to see the most popular times to list auctions! LOL, nice grab! Freedom is Not Free

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09-21-2005, 09:13 PM

Posted By: AnsonYeah Richard, Scott and I both lost out on the Lajoie. Ol' Quick Draw McGraw! It seems that E101's are getting popular among board members too, lately <img src="/images/wink.gif" height=14 width=14>

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09-21-2005, 09:36 PM

Posted By: BcDAnd I am the curator of the DK E-caramel collection! I am looking at it right now!

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09-21-2005, 10:18 PM

Posted By: Dan Kotelesyaint right for that one ! One of these days....yes ....one of these days.

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09-21-2005, 10:51 PM

Posted By: Scott ElkinsKoteles will break your legs! Anson, I hope you are correct, b/c I will be listing a few E101's tomorrow on the B/S/T thread.

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09-21-2005, 11:31 PM

Posted By: Lee BehrensI use the BIN almost all the time and for the same reason mentioned earlier. I price it a the high end of the sale price, my minimum bid starts at the bottom of the scale so the BIN doesn't dissappear. A couple of days ago I put up 5 SGC T206s and all sold on Tthe BINs. It always makes you wonder if you shouldn't have went higher but I know I got a good price and happy about it. By the way, who was the seller? Lee

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09-22-2005, 01:37 PM

Posted By: tbobLee- a guy with 100% feedback but I had never seen him on ebay before-flinchfree. Of course not recognizing a guy's handle means nothing because after buying a D311 last night and making payment to samplesignatures, I found out it is Rhys Yeakley. Bob

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09-22-2005, 07:29 PM

Posted By: AnsonRhett or Rhys? I can't seem to buy an E101 these days. My timing stinks

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09-22-2005, 07:37 PM

Posted By: Judge Dred (Fred)Rhys - he also sells under the name PREWARSPORTS