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09-19-2005, 09:35 PM
Posted By: <b>cmoking</b><p><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/1923-German-Transfer-Babe-Ruth-SGC-84_W0QQitemZ5245070472QQcategoryZ57993QQrdZ1QQcmdZ ViewItem" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/1923-German-Transfer-Babe-Ruth-SGC-84_W0QQitemZ5245070472QQcategoryZ57993QQrdZ1QQcmdZ ViewItem</a><br /><br />The card (or is it stamp in this case?) is too small for the holder (or the holder is too large for the card/stamp). <br /><br />This seems unusual for SGC - for the strip cards, the holders seem to be tight around the card so it can't move around....but this holder seems like the card/stamp can move around relatively easily.

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09-19-2005, 09:47 PM
Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>Might be tough to do stamps but that doesn't look good.....

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09-19-2005, 09:53 PM
Posted By: <b>Judge Dred (Fred)</b><p>It looks better than the "Walmart" packing job by GAI, but not by much. Who ever referenced Walmart packaging in regard to GAI hit it dead on the head!

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09-19-2005, 09:57 PM
Posted By: <b>cmoking</b><p>I agree - this holder, even with the problem of being too big - is still a ton better than the GAI holders referenced in the other thread. I'm just surprised because SGC seems to do a good job customizing the holder to the card.

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09-20-2005, 06:55 AM
Posted By: <b>Jim</b><p>I have never seen SGC slab anything that looks like that. <br /><br />I want to buy it just to be able to send it back for them to reholder so that such an ugly looking thing is not on the market.

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09-20-2005, 07:03 AM
Posted By: <b>John J. Grillo</b><p>The problem isn't with SGC imo...their fee breakdown does indicate you have to pay a higher rate (i.e. 10 bucks), for custom fitted cards...I have to do this with much of my vintage boxing. <br /><br />They do have a rather large list of cards on their website that need to be custom-fitted and submitted under the 10.00 per card fee. If you pay a lower rate of 7-8 dollars, they are probably grading it, but not taking the time to do the custom insert.

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09-20-2005, 07:14 AM
Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>Of the cost, or issue, SGC shouldn't put a product out that looks like that. If they can't do it profitably then they should just say they don't grade these OR raise their price a buck or three......

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09-20-2005, 09:41 AM
Posted By: <b>John J. Grillo</b><p>Leon...I would have to disagree...the product SGC puts out doesn't belong to all of us, it belongs to a single customer. if the customer wants to pay a lower fee to put a card in an unfitted holder, resulting in an unattractive display, then give the customer want he/she wants, it's their card, not ours. <br /><br />SGC makes it pretty clear the guidelines for getting your cards properly fitted...you get what you pay for.

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09-20-2005, 09:44 AM
Posted By: <b>Josh K.</b><p>I dont like the look, but I agree with John on this one.

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09-20-2005, 09:44 AM
Posted By: <b>will watson</b><p>it's a stamp. it's too thin for a custom fit slab, unless you want it sliding around and potentially getting damaged. hence the mylar bag and the larger insert.<br /><br />

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09-20-2005, 09:53 AM
Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>We can respectfully agree to disagree on this issue. If I own a company I am not putting out a product that looks like that. I guess ya'll would. I wouldn't. It reflects poorly on the maker of the product, imo.......take care

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09-20-2005, 10:24 AM
Posted By: <b>Todd Schultz</b><p>It is the thinness that causes them to use the mylar. Stamps and paper thin issues like W513 tend to float around and could get dinged.<br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/taslegal54/28w513terry.jpg"> <br /><br />What I don't understand is why PSA doesn't use holders designed for stamp collectors when holdering stamps or thin issues (as used by its sister company PSE)- unless the dimensions don't match any existing holders, it would seem like the thing to do.<br /><br /><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/C18-ZEPPELIN-STAMP-PSE-GRADED-VF-XF-85-HINGED_W0QQitemZ5616006184QQcategoryZ680QQssPageNa meZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/C18-ZEPPELIN-STAMP-PSE-GRADED-VF-XF-85-HINGED_W0QQitemZ5616006184QQcategoryZ680QQssPageNa meZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem</a><br /><br />Similarly, I don't see why SGC won't use coin holders from its sister company when grading sports coins or pins.