Horizontal question

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Posted By: <b>scott ingold</b><p>How many are there in the set ? and are there any HOF's included in these ?<br /><br />I just picked these up and would like to work on getting all of them in the horizontal position.<img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1126377816.JPG">

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>all quations are horizontal,<br />unless<br />you<br />ask<br />your<br />question<br />like<br />this.<br /><br />Jay<br><br>My place is full of valuable, worthless junk.

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Posted By: <b>Richard</b><p>Hey Scott,<br /><br /> T206Museum has a checklist of all of the horizontals in the set: <a href="http://www.t206museum.com/page/ch_horizlt.html" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.t206museum.com/page/ch_horizlt.html</a><br /><br />Richard.

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Posted By: <b>scott ingold</b><p>Thanks guy's.

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Posted By: <b>Chris</b><p>Any particular reason why the horizontals sell for more. Is it as simple as collectors just like the look?

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>there are collectors that specialize in horizontal cards.<br /><br />Jay<br><br>My place is full of valuable, worthless junk.

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Posted By: <b>Julie Vognar</b><p><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/jphotos/BT206PTe003.jpg"><br />So why did I bother to post it? I LIKE IT!

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>I think that many may have bought it recently too <img src="/images/wink.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />Jay<br><br>My place is full of valuable, worthless junk.

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Posted By: <b>Lee Behrens</b><p>The Pelty and Pattee are 150 series only cards, thus they command a higher price than the regular horizontals. I have found the Murphy to be the most common. If you wait them out you can get them at reasonable prices.<br /><br />Lee

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Posted By: <b>joe brennan</b><p> Very nice Pattee Julie. I'd post mine put it looks like yours only it mine. LOL<br><br>A scared man can't gamble and a jealous man can't work.

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Posted By: <b>Elliot</b><p>Don't forget the Dunn.

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Posted By: <b>Charlie O'Neal</b><p>To add on to what Elliot posted above, Dunn and Becker are not on the horizontal list from the link above. Not real sure whay it's not added.

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Posted By: <b>pete</b><p>I think there are 6 total in the T206 set, someone on ebay had all 6 in 1 auction last week or so, but I was outbid...I have the Mullin (detroit) throwing and the Jack Powell (st. louis) throwing, I like them, they're different<br />pete-<br><br>my best pitch was the one that made it to the plate!

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Posted By: <b>mike mullins</b><p>Hi,<br /><br />Do you happen to remember what the set of six T206 horizontals sold for? I am thinking about liquidating my collection...<br /><br />Thanks!<br /><br />mm

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Posted By: <b>Dave</b><p>Here's all six cards.<br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1126670448.JPG">

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Posted By: <b>Tim Newcomb</b><p>It's an interesting question whether Jack Dunn and Becker should be considered horizontal cards. Whether you think so sort of depends on how you squint at them. I had actually never thought of Becker as horizontal but I can now see why you might.<br /><br />My friend Mike Peich explained to me once why he didn't think Dunn was horizontal, but as I look at the card now, I can't remember what the explanation was. Does Mike or anyone else want to weigh in?<br /><br />Tim

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Posted By: <b>CobbSpikedMe</b><p>I can see an argument for the Dunn card being included as a horizontal pose. However the Becker still doesn't look right when held horizontally. The 6 cards already recognized as horizontals all have a background that is distinctly horizontal. That may be one reason that the Dunn and Becker are left off of the list. <br /><br />Dunn could be laying out for a diving catch on his card, but I don't see Becker in the same way. He is clearly reaching up for a catch, and not diving to the side. <br /><br />Another similarity between the 6 included on the list is that all the player's torsos are clearly positioned on the horizontal side of the card. There is no question as to how to hold the card when viewing it. However, the Becker and Dunn torsos go off the corner of the card. Without the advantage of the backround horizon line, I feel that these two must remain off any official list. <br /><br />Just my opinion....anyone else?

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Posted By: <b>Elliot</b><p>In my mind there is no question that Dunn is a horizontal, just doesn't look right the other way.<br /><br /><img src="http://ccc.1asphost.com/68Vette/Dunn,%20Jack.jpg">

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Posted By: <b>David Smith</b><p>Maybe someone was tossing something to Dunn from the stands??

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Posted By: <b>scott ingold</b><p><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1126736850.JPG"> <br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Tom Lawrie</b><p>The other horizontal cards all have a scenic background. They are all unambiguously horizontal.<br /><br />Dunn was a manager at the time of his T-206. Can't imagine that he laid out for many balls in a full horizontal stretch. More likely that he reached up while posing for a picture.<br /><br />Tom

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Posted By: <b>Elliot</b><p>For the t206 set, they took whatever photos they already had even if the photos were old. They did not take new photos of the players for inclusion in the set. Here's the same card rotated 90 degrees. There's no way anybody could pose this way for a photo.<br /><br /><img src="http://ccc.1asphost.com/68Vette/Dunn,%20Jack2.JPG">

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Posted By: <b>Ed McCollum</b><p>a "one-handed, reaching behind you to make the catch" play and a "two-handed over the shoulder, soon to crash into the wall" play. Both guys are upright.<img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1126789022.JPG">

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Posted By: <b>Elliot</b><p>I don't see the Dunn as being that play at all...his positioning is wrong. Look at the card as a horizontal and everything seems to be in the right place.

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Posted By: <b>Ed McCollum</b><p><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1126793251.JPG">

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Posted By: <b>Elliot</b><p>Love that sequence of photos every time i see them. Even there Mays body position was different, AND Dunn was no Willie Mays, especially since he was mainly a pitcher.

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Posted By: <b>pete</b><p>mike, i dont remember off hand but check the "ended auction" i think it was something like "horizontal lot of 6"...<br />pete-<br><br>my best pitch was the one that made it to the plate!