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09-12-2005, 01:53 PM
Posted By: <b>daviddbreadman</b><p>I continue to be baffled over where people get their cards? I see these great cards from a number of members. Leon always seems to have an abundance of rare cards. I just saw him post a scan of a T207 with a Red Cross back. I have no idea where to find one of those.<br /><br />So i ask you this:<br /><br />Where do you all get your cards?? i get mine about 97% on eBay and 2% here in the BST and about 1% from nationalsportscards.com. <br /><br />What about everyone else? What am i missing? Are card shows a big one? Lets hear it <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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09-12-2005, 01:56 PM
Posted By: <b>zach</b><p>I don't go to many card shows but I do go to the national once a year and pick up lots of my cards there. I also use ebay alot, the b/s/t, and private deals w/other board members. Also on a personal note David, you will not be finding a Red Cross backed t207 for a long time.....less than 20 are known to exist. I think 12 exist ? Can anyone confirm this ?

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09-12-2005, 02:02 PM
Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>The common perception is that 4 exist. I believe the number to be 5 .....regards (ps...my collection pales in comparison to some other board members....it just takes time and patience...and a few bucks)

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09-12-2005, 02:18 PM
Posted By: <b>zach</b><p>I was at first told there were 5 that existed then later told by a different source that 12 existed.....

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09-12-2005, 02:25 PM
Posted By: <b>BlackSoxFan</b><p>Didn't you guys hear - leon has already agreed that when he decides to sell his t207 weaver red cross, i get to be first in line! Haha .. i wish (note: that was a joke). Let me suggest another outlet - The Hurricane Relief Auction coming soon to an ebay near you!<br><br>Regards,<br />Black Sox Fan<br /><br />- - - - - - - - -<br /><br />I'm Smart Enough To Know, There Are A Lot Of People Who Know More Than I Know<br /><br /><a href="http://www.blacksoxfan.com" target="new">BlackSoxFan.com</a><br /><a href=mailto:shoelessjoe@blacksoxfan.com?subject=Ne t54>email me</a>

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09-12-2005, 02:29 PM
Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>You may get to be first in line, but that doesn't mean he will sell it to you <img src="/images/wink.gif" height=14 width=14> Kinda like Rosen at the front door of a show. He may be first in line, but he doesn't get everything.<br /><br />Jay<br><br>My place is full of valuable, worthless junk.

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09-12-2005, 02:30 PM
Posted By: <b>zach</b><p>It's mr. mint for heavan's sake ! He gets everything!(insert smiley)

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09-12-2005, 02:32 PM
Posted By: <b>Bill Kasel</b><p>70% Ebay (but dwindling)<br /><br />20% NW54 BST (and growing)<br /><br />10% Auction Houses<br /><br />Bill

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09-12-2005, 02:40 PM
Posted By: <b>BlackSoxFan</b><p>Lol..i'm not first in line .. nor have leon and i discussed it... i was just givin everyone a laugh....please always assume sarcasm with me beyond anything else! GO BLUE! But boy would i love a shot at it! haha!<br /><br /><br><br>Regards,<br />Black Sox Fan<br /><br />- - - - - - - - -<br /><br />I'm Smart Enough To Know, There Are A Lot Of People Who Know More Than I Know<br /><br /><a href="http://www.blacksoxfan.com" target="new">BlackSoxFan.com</a><br /><a href=mailto:shoelessjoe@blacksoxfan.com?subject=Ne t54>email me</a>

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09-12-2005, 02:46 PM
Posted By: <b>leonl</b><p>Don't believe everything you are told. I have seen 3 (and 1 was the 5th I am talking about) and have been told about the other 2. Email me privately and let me know who told you 12..... I have never heard that number before and know quite a few hobby vets whom I have asked ..

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09-12-2005, 03:06 PM
Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>Leon, I am the person that mentioned the number 12. Thought there were two different finds, one of 5 cards and another of 7 cards.<br /><br />Jay<br><br>My place is full of valuable, worthless junk.

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09-12-2005, 03:15 PM
Posted By: <b>Josh K.</b><p>I get all of mine from one or more of the following places:<br /><br />1. In the attics of new houses that I move into;<br />2. Stuffed behind radiators;<br />3. Inside old shoeboxes that I find laying around;<br />4. My grandparents;<br />5. Hidden in secret hideaway spots under floors and behind walls (located in the same houses that I move into); and <br />6. Dealers - these cards were all purchased a long time ago and the dealers all informed me that the cards were real - but, since I dont know anything about them myself, I sell them on ebay as reprints per ebay policy.

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09-12-2005, 03:54 PM
Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>There wasn't a find of 7. You might be thinking of Just So's as there was a find of 7 of those, I believe. There were 6 in a Sloate and Smolin auction several years ago and there was 1 that the consignor did not give them...which would make a find of 7, of a very rare series. All of my hobby buddies say there are 4-5 T207 Red Cross's.......regards

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09-12-2005, 07:19 PM
Posted By: <b>Scott Elkins</b><p>Unless there has been a recent find I haven't heard about. The "original" find of four - then an old time collector in NJ found one in his collection - total of 5.

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09-12-2005, 08:01 PM
Posted By: <b>Scott Thompson</b><p>I got approximately 80% of my T206's from Ebay, but as the number of "commons" I need dwindles, I am getting more and more from this board.<br><br>Scott <br />

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09-12-2005, 09:34 PM
Posted By: <b>Dan Koteles</b><p>I know that the Red Cross is the rarest, but...how many could be of the 2 that I just sold of the Red Cycle and the Anonymous back ???

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09-12-2005, 09:55 PM
Posted By: <b>Julie Vognar</b><p>shows--i've almost forgotten what they are...

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09-13-2005, 12:27 AM
Posted By: <b>Scott Elkins</b><p>BcD!!!!!! I also acquire cards from that hot dog and Ribeye eating, carpetbagging Dan Koteles.

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09-13-2005, 01:09 AM
Posted By: <b>Judge Dred (Fred)</b><p><ul><li>ebay - (seems like a pretty large percentage)<br /><li>Auction Houses, large and small - (fair amount)<br /><li>B/S/T - (finding it to be a pretty good source)<br /><li>People I've met or know - (I still do this but most people don't want to cut loose of what they have because it's pretty hard to replenish stock)<br /><li>Shows (rarely - now if I lived on around the Pennsylvania area...)<br /><li>Shops (once in a blue moon - so many shops carry new stuff, they consider old stuff to be from the '50s)<br /></ul><br /><br />I wish there was an up to date listing of stores, in our N54 arsenal of information, that carried VINTAGE pre-war (and I don't mean Viet Nam) material. I know these stores exist. It would be a great source of information for people that travel or people that go on vacations with the possibility of making a side trip to a card shop. <br /><br /><br />

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09-14-2005, 01:04 PM
Posted By: <b>Bill Stone</b><p>Wouldn't it be nice to plan one quality show where all the vintage collectors( and only vintage) could come and trade ,buy and sell their vintage cards . I find this the most frustrating part of the hobby --while I am a patient man I still would like to see a card or two I need come up for sale during the year and as my collection has not been built to trade I find that avenue not possible although I fully understand and appreciate the collectors who would prefer to trade.

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09-14-2005, 01:40 PM
Posted By: <b>Alan</b><p>Ed Keetz in upstate New York used to run a "vintage only" show, where no modern stuff is allowed. I'm not sure if he still runs that show.

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09-14-2005, 03:38 PM
Posted By: <b>tbob</b><p>60% Ebay <br />15% NW54 BST <br />10% Auction Houses<br />15% Fellow collectors