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09-07-2005, 04:20 PM
Posted By: <b>robert a</b><p>I just would like to know if raw card lovers are still out there?<br /><img src="/images/wink.gif" height=14 width=14>

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09-07-2005, 04:21 PM
Posted By: <b>BlackSoxFan</b><p>Love them - yes...buy them....mmmmm...sometimes...<br />i don't mind buying my strip cards raw off the net and in person b/c of the nature of the card itself combined with the price.... other than that i'm still hesitant to purchase ungraded material on any very expensive card unless it's a dealer i trust and know well.<br><br>Regards,<br />Black Sox Fan<br /><br />- - - - - - - - -<br /><br />I'm Smart Enough To Know, There Are A Lot Of People Who Know More Than I Know<br /><br /><a href="http://www.blacksoxfan.com" target="new">BlackSoxFan.com</a><br /><a href=mailto:shoelessjoe@blacksoxfan.com?subject=Ne t54>email me</a>

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09-07-2005, 04:42 PM
Posted By: <b>Al Crisafulli</b><p>I love all cards.<br /><br />Well, MOST cards.<br /><br />-Al

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09-07-2005, 05:12 PM
Posted By: <b>Chris Counts</b><p>I see raw cards as sort of the wild west compared to graded cards, which I view as sort of a more settled, predictible world. Not everybody struck it rich by traveling to California during the Gold Rush, but some did, and life was certainly more interesting for many. I occassionally buy graded cards, like a sharp-cornered 1955 Topps Doubleheader of Jackie Robinson that graded a "3" due to poor centering and sold for just a small fraction of its "centered" value. I busted it out of its slab at the first opportunity. So my advice to budget collectors like myself? Go west, young man ...

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09-07-2005, 05:24 PM
Posted By: <b>Ted Zanidakis</b><p>I..................BUY......TRADE......SELL<br /><br />Cards you can.....TOUCH.....CARESS.....SMELL

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09-07-2005, 07:26 PM
Posted By: <b>Tim Newcomb</b><p>Sure, cards look elegant in a stack of SGC holders. But I always want to handle them. My favorite thing to do with a nice raw card is to angle it into the light so that the card's gloss shines out-- beautiful! Can't be done with a slabbed card.<br /><br />Tim

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09-07-2005, 07:51 PM
Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>I did the same thing about 10 minutes ago with my newest acquisition. I turned it to the light to see the uneven, beautiful gloss....then I ever so gently rubbed my finger on a small portion of it, then I smelled of it.....guess it's time to be entombed <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> ....just kidding...I do think they look better in SGC or GAI holders though...and they are definitely more protected that way.....but still, it's really nice to be able to fondle something other than plastic. (no snide comments...though it's tempting)....regards<br /><br />edited to replace PSA with GAI...PSA holders are ugly

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09-07-2005, 08:38 PM
Posted By: <b>Dan</b><p>For older cards I don`t mind some wear or a crease or two.As long as it doesn`t take away from the subject they are kind of like charcter lines. I would like to think some young 8 year old kid really enjoyed getting a card of his favorite player with his Sweet Caporal smokes after a tough 12 hour day working in a sweatshop for .25 cents.What a thrill it must have been for the little sprout. <br /><br />O.K,O.K Maybe not so much the 8 year old kid smoking part,but a card 75 to 100 years old should show some wear but not so much that it looks like it went through a paper shredder.Just My Opinion.

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09-07-2005, 09:30 PM
Posted By: <b>Dan Koteles</b><p>as long as the card or cards look right what does it matter?<br /><br />Usually dealers are more worried selling wise about a graded card.

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09-07-2005, 09:40 PM
Posted By: <b>Anson</b><p>There is a certain smell that pre WWI cards seem to have. Do you think they could bottle it, kind of like the new car scent? I bet all of us would buy it!<br /><br />Raw cards are fun to find, but I don't trust too many people outside of this board. There seems to be an overwhelming amount of trimmed and doctored cards out there. I'm not sure what the numbers would end up being, but I bet that a LARGE percentage of raw cards are doctored or fake.

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09-07-2005, 09:44 PM
Posted By: <b>Julie</b><p>can be seen on my website, www.julievognar.com/home...<br />The other half--most of them, will be up again soon, I hope.<br />I sometimes buy graded cards (up to 80 and 6), but liberate them right away...always have; always will.

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09-07-2005, 09:52 PM
Posted By: <b>Paul</b><p>I specialize in card sushi. I own only two graded cards. I owned others, but liberated them.

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09-07-2005, 10:10 PM
Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>I prefer raw, but anything of value get slab because the card needs to be protected from me. I've only bought 2 slabbed cards. With my budget, slabbed cards are too expensive.<br /><br />Jay<br><br>My place is full of valuable, worthless junk.

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09-07-2005, 10:18 PM
Posted By: <b>Scott Forrest</b><p>but nothing compares to the combined smell of fresh plastic and vintage cardboard - crack those babies out and sniff!!!

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09-08-2005, 07:57 AM
Posted By: <b>brian p</b><p>I think one of the biggest factors for whether one collects mostly or solely graded cards and those who only collect raw or mostly raw cards is when you started collecting vintage. If you have just started within the last five years, you probably collect graded (unless you are relatively poor and don't mind the occasional ebay 'burn'). If you started around 5-10 years ago, you are probably a little more confident in spotting the trash out there and there is a higher liklihood that you collect raw. If you have collected for over 15 years, you predate most grading and are too stubborn (or cheap, like me)to normally pay the graded markup. You might have some cards slabbed for protection, but after purchase.<br /> All my cards are naked, and have only purchased about ten graded cards over the years, which I quickly de-tombed.<br /><br />Just my opinion, whether it is humble or not,<br /><br />Brian