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07-19-2005, 04:31 PM
Posted By: <b>Julie Vognar</b><p>In a domed stadium, if the ball hits the ceiling and then lands in the standsa in home run territory, what is it?<br /><br />In a domed stadium, if the ball hits the ceiling and lands on the field of play in fair territory, what is it?<br /><br />In a domed stadium, if the ball hits the ceiling and lands foul on the field, what is it?<br /><br />In a domed stadium, if the ball hits the ceiling, and then someone catches it on the field of play (does this ever happen?), what is it?

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07-19-2005, 04:43 PM
Posted By: <b>dennis</b><p>In a domed stadium, if the ball hits the ceiling and then lands in the standsa in home run territory, what is it? HOME RUN<br /><br />In a domed stadium, if the ball hits the ceiling and lands on the field of play in fair territory, what is it? IN PLAY FAIR BALL<br /><br />In a domed stadium, if the ball hits the ceiling and lands foul on the field, what is it? FOUL BALL<br /><br />In a domed stadium, if the ball hits the ceiling, and then someone catches it on the field of play (does this ever happen?), what is it? AN OUT<br /><br />

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07-19-2005, 05:21 PM
Posted By: <b>Max Weder</b><p>Julie<br /><br />When I saw your subject line, I thought you were referring to the other thread "What do you look like" and to those of us who might otherwise reflect a personal domed appearance (I need to find one of those pictures of me from the early 80s)through the absence of hair follicles.<br /><br />On the other hand, the majority of major league games I have seen have still been seen in domed stadiums. Olympic Stadium was a great place to watch a game when 45,000 were watching Ellis Valentine, Ron Leflore, Rodney Scott et al, but it started to die on Blue Monday and was the worst place to watch a game post 1994. The Kingdome wasn't much better, and was a dark and dreary place.<br /><br />Max<br />

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07-19-2005, 05:47 PM
Posted By: <b>Josh K.</b><p>I think in some cases Dennis is correct, but, the answer to all of those questions depends on the particular field and the ground rules established for the field.

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07-19-2005, 11:16 PM
Posted By: <b>Julie</b><p>All the teams are in MLB.<br /><br />The ball has to clear the green monster to be a home run, doesn't it? Or does it? (THINKING ABOUT SAME RULES FOR ALL TEAMS, NO MATTER WHAT THE FIELD IS LIKE).

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07-19-2005, 11:22 PM
Posted By: <b>DJ</b><p>I think the ground rule specifics vary on the playing field/dome.<br /><br />Also, if the ball goes up and doesn't come down in the Metrodome, it's a ground rule double.<br /><br />DJ

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07-20-2005, 01:29 AM
Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>Every stadium has a different set of ground rules. MN just changed it's ground rules regarding balls that hit things susppended above the field of play. I forget off hand what the changes were.<br /><br />Jay<br><br>My place is full of valuable, worthless junk.

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07-20-2005, 09:32 AM
Posted By: <b>Scott Mosley</b><p>I can remember at least one occasion where your ground rules came into play.<br /><br />Mike Schmidt hit a ball off of a speaker located in fair territory on the ceiling of Olympic Stadium in Montreal in the early 1980s.<br /><br />He was given a ground rule double for his efforts.<br /><br />Scott

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07-20-2005, 09:41 AM
Posted By: <b>Josh K.</b><p>Ground rules for the Metrodome:<br /><br /><br />Foul poles are in fair territory. <br />Ball hitting roof or speakers in fair territory: if caught by fielder, batter is out and fielders advance at their own risk. <br />Ball hitting roof or speakers in fair territory shall be judged fair or foul in relation to where it hits the ground or is touched by a fielder. <br />Any ball that hits the speaker or roof in foul territory is a foul ball; if, however, the ball is caught by fielder, the batter is out and base runners advance at their own risk. <br />A ball that hits speaker in foul territory and ricochets back into fair territory is still a foul ball; if the ball is caught by fielder, the batter is out and base runners advance at their own risk. <br /><br />Note specifically that in MN a ball that hits a speaker in foul territory and lands in fair territory is a foul ball as is a ball that hits the roof or a speaker in fair territory but lands in foul territory.<br /><br />Ground rules for all other mlb teams can be found here:<br /><br /><a href="http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/official_info/umpires/ground_rules.jsp" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/official_info/umpires/ground_rules.jsp</a>

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07-20-2005, 10:00 AM
Posted By: <b>Todd Schultz</b><p>Josh, thanks for the link. It's outdated though, at least as pertains to the Metrodome. A ball hitting a speaker is a dead ball foul (not to be confused with basketball's dead ball foul). I watched a Twins game the other day when this happened, and Blyleven stated that the ground rule had changed this year.

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07-20-2005, 10:11 AM
Posted By: <b>identify7</b><p>Yul Brynner, Telly Savalas, Jack Johnson

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07-20-2005, 10:20 AM
Posted By: <b>Josh K.</b><p>I got that link from mlb.com so they must not have updated it to account for the changes. <br /><br />Julie - with respect to the Green Monster, if they ever thought it was too difficult to hit a homerun over the wall, boston could always paint a white line on the wall, and change the ground rules to reflect that anything hit over the white line is a HR. <br /><br />And apparently, some balls that hit the green monster can be home runs (from an espn article):<br /><br />"Another odd thing about Fenway is the yellow line that rises to the top of The Wall, just left of the center-field bleachers. If a ball hits the line or to the right of the line, it's a home run. If a ball hits to the left of the line, it's in play ... unless the ball bounces into the bullpen, in which case it's a home run."

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07-20-2005, 10:56 AM
Posted By: <b>Hal Lewis</b><p>Braves got robbed a few years ago on some sort of stupid ground rule.<br /><br />Ball hit the roof, then fell in the outfield for an apparent double...<br /><br />but the umps said it hit the roof in foul ground and was therefore foul.<br /><br /><img src="/images/sad.gif" height=14 width=14>

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07-20-2005, 12:31 PM
Posted By: <b>sagard</b><p>This photo shows why the Boston line was drawn. A ball that hits the wall to the right of the line has been deemed to have gone over the center field fence and is thus a home run. Certain balls may bounce back on the field after hitting that part of the fence, though I don't know how often it would happen.<br /><br /><img src="http://home.comcast.net/~sagard123/boston106.jpg">