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07-11-2005, 07:30 AM

Posted By: dan mckee<a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5215650772&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5215650772&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1</a> PSA 1 with major paperloss on back? What should a decent PSA 3 bring?

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07-11-2005, 07:51 AM

Posted By: Tom Boblittdoesn't really look like a shill or anything either as the bidding increments are pretty steady. No one looking like they're fishing for high bid or anything. I agree.......too much $$.........X marks the spot.......(of paperloss)

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07-11-2005, 07:52 AM

Posted By: dan mckeeYes Tom, I checked that as well and saw no slippery bidding. Just an incredible amount of $$$ for that card in that condition. Dan.

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07-11-2005, 08:05 AM

Posted By: john/z28jdI talked to someone last night about this(they shall remian nameless) and Elliot said he didnt think the price was too high because the front image is so nice.With this card and obviously the front being so important its more of someone buying the card,not the holder.If it werent graded someone wouldve listed it as vg/ex front but paper loss on the back which to me seems like a better description(for a seller) than just psa1. I dont disagree with his thinking(eventho hes from canada).You could spend 10k on a psa3 of this card and the front image wouldnt be as nice as this one,so the price to me doesnt look so bad all things considered

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07-11-2005, 08:50 AM

Posted By: Judge DredDoes anyone know how many of these cards exist (an approximate)? Perhaps people are bidding on the scarcity of the card and want a novelty card from "the Monster". Maybe it's a sign that the price of a T206 SHERRY MAGIE MAGEE error is going up. I'm in the market for a cheap Plank!!!

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07-11-2005, 08:58 AM

Posted By: dan mckeeI think Mastro has a PSA 3 coming in August, based on this one, that should bring $15K.

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07-11-2005, 09:13 AM

Posted By: Adam J. MoraineWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYY to much $$$$ considering the defect. Best Regards, Adam J. Moraine

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07-11-2005, 09:15 AM

Posted By: ElliotYes, I am he who no longer shall be nameless. John was speaking to me about the Magie. Also, I agree with Dan regarding the Plank.

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07-11-2005, 09:28 AM

Posted By: dan mckeeI meant PSA 3 Magie

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07-11-2005, 09:55 AM

Posted By: T206CollectorLet's face it, people just cannot get enough of Mr. X's stuff. But seriously, this is about scarcity and about people who don't care about paper loss bidding on a card with a nice front.

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07-11-2005, 10:12 AM

Posted By: JimBI don't think this is an outrageous amount to pay for this card. Like the Plank (and Wagner), it seems the value of the rare T206s is on the rise. People have already pointed it out, but I would rather have this one than a creased up copy that migh have the same technical grade. For the collector of rarities and error cards, you aren't going to find a copy of the most famous error card in the hobby for much less. Same goes for the T206 collector who is trying to get as close as possible to completing the set. Plank and certainly Wagner may be outside the range of consideration for many, but Magie sits on the cusp. Anyway, if it is a high price, I don't think it is by much if any at all. And I doubt the whole Mr. X thing had anything to do with it. If I owned it, I would get it reholdered without the Mr. X label. JimB

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07-11-2005, 12:06 PM

Posted By: dan mckeeDave Vintage sold one in a GAI 1.5 holder with no paperloss for $3500. I guess I am just putting too much emphasis on the paperloss. Defects are in the eyes of the beholder I guess. Dan.

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07-11-2005, 12:25 PM

Posted By: Bob DonaldsonFor me, as a collector (not investor) of T206's, paper loss on the back doesn't bother me too much. $4k is about 10 times the most I've ever paid for a card so I'd have to agree that the card is overpriced at least for my budget.

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07-11-2005, 02:57 PM

Posted By: JohnI agree Dan 100%; I expected 3k, which is crazy for that card because of the ebay environment and the whole laughable Mr. X stuff. Just way too much money IMO, I had thought about bidding. But after seeing the Magie in Leland’s auction lot, I found out there are much better ones with paper loss. I don’t think the Mr. X looks as nice as the one in the lot below plus for the 4k you could flip the other cards. I’ve been offered nice 2’s for 5k I just think a ripped up back PSA 1 is a 2-3k card tops no matter how nice the front. Looks like my search for this card continues. <a href="http://www.lelands.com/bid.aspx?lot=785&auction=505" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.lelands.com/bid.aspx?lot=785&auction=505</a>

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07-11-2005, 03:39 PM

Posted By: Judge DredIn comparison the Leland's lot with the Magie was a steal. You're right you could have sold the other 102 cards from the Leland's lot and kept the Magie for about half the price of the ebay Magie. The scans of the Mr. X Magie are not available anymore, did anyone happen to save them? If so, could you please post the front and back scans.

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07-11-2005, 04:04 PM

Posted By: Elliot<img src="http://imagehost.vendio.com/bin/imageserver.x/00000000/tjschwartz/.mids/t206magieerrorfront.jpg"> <img src="http://imagehost.vendio.com/bin/imageserver.x/00000000/tjschwartz/.mids/t206magieerrorrev.jpg">

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07-12-2005, 09:28 PM

Posted By: Judge DredThanks for the scan Elliot. Keeping on the topic of tough cards from a vintage set: T207 The Lowdermilk is the tough card in this set. There is one on ebay right now: <a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5219016750&fromMakeTrack=true" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5219016750&fromMakeTrack=true</a> Any guesses on how much this card will sell for? If you get this card then you probably have the toughest card in the set. Will people looking for rarities drive the price of this card up?

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07-12-2005, 11:48 PM

Posted By: tbobJudge- Lowdermilk is overrated. Ward Miller is the toughest card in the set among the top 5 price-wise. Lewis and Lowdermilk got the rep for being 1-2 in scarcity and price, becoming the Wagner and Plank of the T207 set but that is a myth, although one a lot of people believe. By the way Donlin and Pelty are the scarcest among the "tough backs" (Broadleaf, Cycle and Anonymous) IMHO. tbob

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07-12-2005, 11:54 PM

Posted By: Judge DredThat's why I like this forum so much. I'm not a T207 collector but I just learned something valuable. Thanks, Bob!

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07-13-2005, 01:12 AM

Posted By: jay behrensIn the 80s I always suspected that Lowdermilk was a lot more common than hobby myth claimed. I saw way too many of them, especially compared to Miller. Jay My place is full of valuable, worthless junk.

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07-15-2005, 02:12 PM

Posted By: Judge DredThe T207 PSA4 (MK) Lowdermilk is over $1K. Any guesses on the final price? <a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5219016750&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5219016750&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1</a>