Possible way to help Ben

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Posted By: <b>Mike McGrail</b><p>Just can't shake the ugly feeling that I got when I read Bens post. I feel worse about this then when the Steelers blew it AGAIN this past post season against the Pats. And I have been a die-hard Black and Gold fan since forever.<br /><br />Anyway ... If my math is correct, some low life has taken Ben for 86 cards, not counting the Gretzky/Jordan.<br /><br />I believe that this board has at least that many posters. What if we all adopt ONE of the cards and make it our personal mission to keep our eyes open for that particular one. Perferably a card that is close to our own colection area. Get to know the scan. And start keeping a regular eye on eBay and other channels. This may take awhile, but it could increase the odds of finding one of them. And one may lead to more .....<br /><br />This doesn't stop us from also keeping our eye open for all of them, but it will surely increase the chances, won't it?<br /><br />I'd be more than happy to do the admin on this to make sure that as many of the cards as possible get adopted. I have already marked myself down for the T206 Cobb bat off.<br /><br />Come on folks, step up to the plate on this one.<br /><br />Mike<br /><br /><br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Paul</b><p>I'll adopt the W504 Universal Toy - Babe Ruth. Great idea. Ben's cards WILL turn up somewhere.<br />

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Posted By: <b>Josh K.</b><p>Put me down for the e106 matty - Ive been looking for that card for myself, so it will be easy to keep an eye out for Ben's. <br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Eric</b><p>I was thinking the same thing Mike. I was in the middle of a trade with Ben, and two of the cards stolen are for all intensive purposes, are mine (the D304 Barry and CJ Evers). I'll be keeping my eyes open for these two cards in specific through every outlet I know, and if found, will join Ben in legal action.<br /><br />BTW, I'm with ya on the Steelers..watched the latest collapse (thanks for reminding me of that ugly loss)...which only made me curse the Pat's even more in the SB. We'll be back in '06!<br /><br />E.

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Posted By: <b>Bill Kasel</b><p>I have made an offer to Ben on it before (unsuccessfully <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>). I have since picked one up from Wesley. I'd be happy to help in any way possible, even offering to donate my Collins. I have a good life, and it would make me happy to help out a fellow collector.<br /><br />I too just can't imagine this happening to anyone. Ben, you have my best thoughts coming your way.<br /><br />Sincerely,<br /><br />Bill Kasel

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Posted By: <b>john/z28jd</b><p>I'll watch for the orange borders Tigers card since im always looking for the Pirates team card from that set.Its a tough card and since theyre handcut it should be an easy card to tell from other Tiger team cards which dont show up often anyway

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Posted By: <b>Chris B</b><p>Count me in for the N162 Anson.

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Posted By: <b>Scott Forrest</b><p>You could update it (edit) based on responses you receive. Assign me any of them.

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Posted By: <b>Darren J. Duet</b><p>Sign me up for the T205 Joss.

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Posted By: <b>ockday</b><p>count me in for the e90-1 walsh..it's a card i have been seeking for quite a while<br /><br />Alan

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Posted By: <b>Gilbert Maines</b><p>e224 Texas Tommy Mack

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Posted By: <b>quan</b><p>i've always wanted the e104 baker so I'll take that card, along with the e104 Collins and Mack.

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Posted By: <b>Mike McGrail</b><p>Good thought Scott. You're on the look out for the T206 green cobb.<br /><br />- N162 Cap Anson - CHRIS B, the-illini<br />- N162 Dan Brouthers - PATRICK, nryan5714<br />- N162 Ed Andrews - JULIE, julievognar<br />- N162 "Sure Shot" Dunlap - KENNY COLE, kennycole<br />- N162 Mike "King" Kelly - JULIE, julievognar<br />- N172 Count Tony Mullane - KEVIN CUMMINGS, kkkkandp<br />- N172 Silver Flint (portrait) - KEVIN CUMMINGS, kkkkandp<br />- N172 Jim Mutrie - KEVIN CUMMINGS, kkkkandp<br />- N172 Watch Burnham - KEVIN CUMMINGS, kkkkandp<br />- N172 McClellan - KEVIN CUMMINGS, kkkkandp<br />- N172 Buck West - KEVIN CUMMINGS, kkkkandp<br />- N172 George Wood - KEVIN CUMMINGS, kkkkandp<br />N173 Old Judge Cabinets - Smith<br />N175 Gypsy Queen - Casey<br />- N184 Kimball Champs - Burch - ROBERT A, caramelcard<br />- N321 S.F. Hess California league - Ryan - JULIE, julievognar<br />- N28 Caruthers - GLENN, gscheyd<br />- N28 Mulvey - BRYAN LONG, trib01 & GLENN&lt; gscheyd<br />- N300 Mayo Cut Plug - John Ward - JULIE, julievognar<br />- E90-1 Ed Walsh - OCKDAY, ockday<br />- E92 Nadja - Hartzell - BILL CORNELL, bcornell<br />- E95 Eddie Collins - BILL KASEL, bkasel<br />- E96 Mordecai Brown - SCOTT FORREST, runscott<br />- E99 Bishop & Co - Hogan - ADAM J BAXTER, adambaxter<br />- E100 Bishop & Co - Tozer - ADAM J BAXTER, adambaxter<br />E103 Bender<br />- E104-1 Baker - QUAN, quannimir<br />- E104-1 Collins - QUAN, quannimir<br />- E104-1 Mack - QUAN, quannimir<br />- E105 Mello Mint - Knight ANDREW PARKS, ap13<br />- E106 Christy Mathewson - JOSH K, jkrasner2<br />- E107 Gleason - BRIAN MCQUEEN, shammus<br />- E107 Parent - BRIAN MCQUEEN, shammus<br />- E107 Moore - BRIAN MCQUEEN, shammus<br />- E107 Jones- BRIAN MCQUEEN, shammus<br />- E126 Am. Caramel - Schalk - RICK, rickhastings<br />- E286 Ju Ju Drums - Cheek - SCOTT M, phlflyer1<br />- Colgan's "Tin Tops" - Chief Meyers - JULIE, julievognar<br />- E224 "Texas Tommy" Connie Mack - GILBERT MAINES, identify7<br />- "Orange Borders" - Tigers Team - JOHN/Z28JD, z28jd<br />- Voskamps Coffee - Miller - GLEN V, glenv<br />Tango Eggs Dooin<br />- D311 Pacific Coast Buscuit - Smith - ADAM J BAXTER, adambaxter<br />C46 Imperial Tobacco - Hardy<br />- W514 Gandil - ERIK V, erikv<br />- W504 Universal Toy - Babe Ruth - PAUL, sportscardexaminer<br />- V100 Willards Chocolate Babe Ruth - SEAN COE, scoe<br />T332 Helmar Stamps - Stovall<br />- 1932 U.S. Caramel - Jimmy Foxx - MATT GOEBEL, ghostmarcelle<br />1935-36 Sawyer Biscuit cabinet - Bill Lee<br />- T3 Turkey Red - Harry McIntyre - QUALITYCARDS, qualitycards.com<br />- T204 Ramly - Frank Chance - KEVIN OCONNOR, pianolegs<br />- T204 T.T.T. Cigarettes - Jones back - JULIE, jvognar<br />- T207 Napoleon back - RICK HASTINGS, rickhastings<br />- T207 Red Cycle back - RICK HASTINGS, rickhastings & TBOB, tbob<br />T209 b&w Hannifen<br />- T209 colour - Cowell - TBOB, tbob<br />- T210 Zimmerman - BARRY ARNOLD, ethicsprof<br />- T212 Obak - Daley - ADAM J BAXTER, adambaxter<br />- T213-2 Coupon - Marquard - ROB, trobba<br />T216 Kotton - Doolan<br />- T222 Fatima - Schang - RICK, rickhastings <br />- T227 Frank Baker - MIKE, mikemcgrail<br />- T205 Joss - DARREN J DUET, drdduet<br />- T205 Mathewson - ANDREW PARKS, ap13<br />- T206 Cobb (green portrait) - SCOTT FORREST, runscott<br />- T206 Cobb (bat off) American Beauty back - MIKE, mikemcgrail<br />- T206 Lattimore Carolina Brights back - SCOTT ELKINS, jselkins<br />- 1914 Cracker Jack Tinker - BRIAN MCQUEEN, shammus<br />- 1915 Cracker Jack Comiskey - BRIAN MCQUEEN, shammus<br />- 1915 Cracker Jack Evers - ERIC, goudeyhunter<br />- 1915 Cracker Jack Griffith - BRIAN MCQUEEN, shammus<br />- 1915 Cracker Jack Speaker - BRIAN MCQUEEN, shammus<br />- D303 General Baking - Tris Speaker - ANDY BECKER, andybecker<br />- D304 "Butter Krust" Barry - ERIC, goudeyhunter<br />- D304 "Butter Krust" Bell - LEON, leonl<br />- D304 "Butter Krust" Herzog - LEON, leonl<br />- D304 "General Baking" O'Toole - LEON, leonl<br />- D304 "Butter Krust" Shafer - LEON, leonl<br />- D304 "Butter Krust" Young - PAUL, paulpaulpaul<br />- D322 Tip Top Gibson<br />- D322 Leach - BRUCE BABCOCK, uffda51<br />- D322 Locke - BRUCE BABCOCK, uffda51<br />- D322 Simon - BRUCE BABCOCK, uffda51<br />- D322 Wilson - BRUCE BABCOCK, uffda51<br />

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Posted By: <b>robert a</b><p>A handful of the cards used to be mine and I know them very well and it would be impossible for me not to notice them at public market including:<br />t206 green portrait sgc 20<br />t206 batt off american beauty psa 2<br />N184 burch sgc 20<br />e104 collins psa 3<br />e104 baker in ga holder 2.5<br />d303 speaker in psa holder with small corner clip psa1<br />I know other collectors on the board and dealers that post here are familiar with these very examples as well.<br /><br />Good luck to Ben.<br />robert a<br /><br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Scott M</b><p>You can put me down for this one as its one I would have loved to talk trade with Ben about...<br /><br />Scott M

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Posted By: <b>Matt Goebel</b><p>Cool idea. I'll take this one as I almost outbid him on the Ebay auction it came from.

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Posted By: <b>Glenn</b><p>Great idea. I'll take the N28 Caruthers.

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Posted By: <b>Glen V</b><p>I'll look out for the Voskamps Coffee - Miller

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Posted By: <b>qualitycards</b><p>MIKE - This is a great idea for all of us to network to try to recover the stolen cards and nab the guilty party.<br />Mark me down for the T3 Turkey Red Harry McIntyre. I collect this set and I am always checking eBay and dealer web sites as it is...jay

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Posted By: <b>Kenny Cole</b><p>I'll take the N162 Dunlap and Kelly cards. I'm looking for both of them anyway.<br /><br />Kenny Cole

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Posted By: <b>Julie</b><p>They used to be mine.Kenny, we posted at the same time.<br /><br />I know that kelly like my own hand. Also the Andrews. A;lso the Ward.

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Posted By: <b>Brian McQueen</b><p><br />Please put me down for any cards that are left over. I have a strong working knowledge of his cards as many of them were actually in my collection at one point. I'll take the four e107s, the Cracker Jacks. Whatever is needed...<br /><br />Thanks everyone, <br /><br />Brian

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Posted By: <b>Kenny Cole</b><p>I don't want to ruffle any feathers. I'll take the Dunlap. You can look for the Kelly.<br /><br />Kenny Cole

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Posted By: <b>Andrew Parks</b><p>I'm collecting Mellos and Matties so I'll keep an eye on the E105 Mello-mint Knight and the Matty T205.<br /><br />Great idea and Ben, I haven't responded yet to the other thread, but I'm thinking about you...

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Posted By: <b>Adam J. Baxter</b><p>This is a great idea. Since I collect only PCL stuff right now and I do multiple searches at all hours both day and night, I can keep my eyes peeled for the E99/E100 Bishops, D311 Smith, and the Obak Daley. If either of the Bishops or the D311 come up on Ebay they are probably Ben's, as neither come around too often.

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Posted By: <b>Gary B.</b><p>I would help out in this area if I could, but being temporarily out of collecting, I'm not actively looking for cards and I'd do a lousy job. I think this is a great idea though and I applaud everyone for participating. Hopefully with these many pairs of eyes, this will be solved sooner if not later. This kind of group support is a beautiful thing...

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Posted By: <b>Kevin O'Connor</b><p>I'll take the Ramly Chance and Evers. I've been actively hunting both and will notice them instantly if they surface.

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Posted By: <b>Sean Coe</b><p>I'll keep an eye for the Willard's Ruth.

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Posted By: <b>Mike McGrail</b><p>See updated list above.<br /><br />About half way there<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Paul</b><p>I'll keep an eye out for the D304 Young, since I owned up until a few weeks ago. I'm sure I'll also notice the N162 Kelly, E106 Mathewson, and Texas Tommy Mack if they come up for sale.

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Posted By: <b>barry arnold</b><p>I'll focus on the T210 Zimmerman.<br />Although, I'm parting with my own 210's (thanks tbob and eric p) so i can<br />focus on 206's, i have lived with 210's for over 20 years.<br />hope this helps Ben.<br />we're with you.<br /><br />best<br /><br />barry arnold

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Posted By: <b>Kevin Cummings</b><p>I'll split them with some other members if they are so inclined.

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Posted By: <b>Julie</b><p>(great picture!). That one was mine, too...gee..good thing I don't collect hardly any E cards, or they would all have gone in trades and sales to Ben!<br /><br />Hang in there, Beenyamin.

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Posted By: <b>Patrick</b><p>I am pretty new to the forum, but have been looking for a long time. I had chatted with Ben the other nite on here, and am very sorry for his loss!! I am willing to look for the N162 Dan Brouthers. I will check ebay asa much as possible, and other sources. Also, I would be willing to give Ben my T206 Cobb greenback. Just let me know!!<br />

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Posted By: <b>Julie</b><p>so you don't have to bother looking for that one. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>Andrew Parks</b><p>I can't get on Ben's web site...help.

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Posted By: <b>Julie</b><p>Yahoo will only allow so much input and viewing at a given time--and then--sproing. It'll be O.K. in an hour or so.

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Posted By: <b>rob</b><p>I will watch for the T213 Marquard...it falls within my small area of expertise. rob

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Posted By: <b>Mike McGrail</b><p>See updated list above. Once all have been adopted, I'll create a new with the final breakdown. Maybe Bill can find a way to keep it "sticky" at the top of the board for awhile.<br /><br />33 cards still need someone to keep an eye out for them<br /><br />Mike

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Posted By: <b>RickHastings</b><p>I am new to this board also, and frankly I am just flabergasted at the outpouring of support that I see here. It really is unbelieveable, and Ben you have my sympathy for your loss,but also my admiration on the obvious fellowship you have created for yourself from all of these board members. I know it means little now, but take some solace in that.<br />I am always looking at T207's on ebay, and will take the two of them. Players's name? I have a T206 (red background) Cobb that I will donate to Ben. It isn't as good of shape as Ben's I'm sure, but maybe it will help.<br />

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Posted By: <b>Julie</b><p>It also used to be mine. It is just about perfect, but was (at least) ungraded. Also the N321<br />California league Ryan. Won it on ebay (trimmed).

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Posted By: <b>Bruce Babcock</b><p>I'll take the D322 cards. I'm on the lookout for a couple of upgrades myself so I'm already looking.

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Posted By: <b>Bill Cornell</b><p>I have an E92 Nadja (Hartzell) to chip in.<br /><br />Bill

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Posted By: <b>ErikV</b><p><br /><br /> I'll keep my eye out for the W514 Gandil.<br /><br /> -ErikV.

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Posted By: <b>Bryan Long</b><p>I would be happy to take this card as it was once mine.

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Posted By: <b>Scott Forrest</b><p>Study the images of Ben's cards that you have volunteered to handle, then set up an ebay search and call it something like "Ben-Search". Check it every day and also check 'completed items'. If the thief is really stupid he might put up low BIN's on a few of these to cash in quickly.

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Posted By: <b>tbob</b><p>but I never let a T207 Red Cycle go by anywhere without checking it out, so I'll help on that one. Hey ben if you are reading this, who is pictured on the Red Cycle card? I checked your web site for the back and I got a Ramly TTT back.<br />Also since no one is taking the T209 Color Cowell, I'll keep an eye peeled for that one too.

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Posted By: <b>Glen V</b><p>Maybe a few people can get a temp e-mail account (easy to set up anything w/ Yahoo) and post a few places with offers to buy the card you're watching out for. Any ideas on where to post? Someone might jump at a chance to make a private deal...

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Posted By: <b>Julie</b><p>It was in partial payment for his work on my website. If anyone else wants to look: back is great, front: excellent picture, one corner is just nipped, and lower right has TWO tack holes, but somehow managed to survive. Clean.

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Posted By: <b>Andrew Parks</b><p>I have a color printer, so I printed my two cards to look for off of Ben's site and tacked them up on my bulletin board right by my computer.

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Posted By: <b>RickHastings</b><p>Tbob<br />I did the same thing with both of the T207's and got a scan of the TTT. I has something to do with the way it is programmed to open.<br />soes anyone know what players are on the two T207's?

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Posted By: <b>Dave</b><p>The only card I have that could match up with Ben's loss is the T210 Zimmerman. I know Barry was going to focus on this, but I'd be happy to contribute this.<br /><br />Maybe Barry could do something else?<br /><br />Dave<br /><br />Update 2/23:<br /><br />I actually gave Ben the T210 that was stolen. This was back at the "Give a Penny, Take a Penny" thread. <br /><br />So, I can't replace it with another Zimmerman. But, since this was just a type example of the T210, I can supply another from the same original set.<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Scott Elkins</b><p>Cycle - Gregg (GAI 1, but not that bad - just two or three heavy creases) and the Napoleon - ungraded FR/GD Engle with a collector's stamp on the reverse and rounded corners - no creasing. I have not posted that I will look out for any cards. However, I have most of Ben's collection memorized, since we did a recent trade and were getting ready to do another. I can DEFINITELY spot the five cards I traded him:<br />T207 Cycle Gregg (GAI 1)<br />T207 Napoleon Engle <br />E104-1 Mack (the Mack didn't have any creases, but had a distinctive "scratch" on the top left corner)<br />T206 CB Back Lattimore (SGC 50)<br />E253 Oxford Holke (SGC 30)

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Posted By: <b>Glenn</b><p>As long as I'm keeping an eye out for the Caruthers, put me down for the N28 Mulvey also.

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Posted By: <b>Mike McGrail</b><p>See updated list above<br /><br />14 to go

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Posted By: <b>Mike McGrail</b><p>because we are not done with this yet

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Posted By: <b>rick</b><p>Mike<br /><br />put me down for the E126 Schalk and the T222 Schang<br />I'm familiar enough with those to help look out for them<br />rick hastings

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Posted By: <b>Mike McGrail</b><p>The following cards still need "adoption"<br /><br />N173 Old Judge Cabinets - Smith<br />N175 Gypsy Queen - Casey<br />E96 Mordecai Brown<br />E103 Bender<br />Tango Eggs Dooin<br />C46 Imperial Tobacco - Hardy<br />T332 Helmar Stamps - Stovall<br />1935-36 Sawyer Biscuit cabinet - Bill Lee<br />T209 b&w Hannifen<br />T216 Kotton - Doolan<br />D303 General Baking - Tris Speaker<br />

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Posted By: <b>rich</b><p>Hi,<br />I am a little late I know. But I noticed on Bens site he was also looking for a T205 Eddie Collins Mouth Open. I was in the works for a trade for this card when everything happened. I know it VERY well and did not see anyone "adopt" this card. I'll take it if no one else has. <br /><br />Also, I have been in contact with Ben since the incident. I am going to attempt this here, but if this is not the appropriate place then I apologize. In regards to helping him, Nothing will ever replace his cards, but I would like to offer up a "collection" of sorts of cards (even beaters) that we might have to "donate" to his collecting cause. I am donating 2 t207 (beaters) Walker and Donahue I believe. I don't have them here in front of me. But I figure every little bit helps and maybe just maybe he will eventually get his cards back as well. If anyone is interested in "donating" contact me off the boards and I can give you his address or send them for you or whatever.<br /><br />Anyways that is my public service announcement. Fianlly is there any update on his cards? retrieval of any, etc...<br />Rich

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Posted By: <b>Julie Vognar</b><p>Please send them to me first, unless you live in Canada. We have 20 cards so far, some very impressive, and 17 have been mailed. e-mail me for my address (I'm the official sneaker=across-the border) if you live anywhere in America, or in any foreign country except Canada. Thanks!<br /><br />There's one that just started its journey toward me today, and someone said he was waiting for a deal to materualize about now, so you're by no means too late!<br /><br />As for actual +replace,ment," there hasn't been much of that--even the terriffic cards are not exact replacements. One I can think of is a N28 Mulvey, with severe back damage but a perfect front--Ben used to have one almost EXACTLY like that, but not quite as well centered, and with worse back damage. Ben says it's also fun getting new cards (I also found this to be true when I had to sell most of my collection, and when I started acquiring more, I didn;'t nevcessarily get the ones I had had).<br /><br />As far as I know, nothing has been found--I really did a double-take on the Mulvey, but it's a little different.