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03-13-2005, 06:35 AM

Posted By: RobertWhat is going on at EBAY...T206 commons are going through the roof...PSA 8's over $2k PSA 7"s over $1k and PSA 6's as high as $700. It's insane the latest PSA price guide is 15% of what they are going for, there is no way I am going to pay that kind of scratch for no name players. I was thinking of trying to build the set but at these prices I am going to stick with HOF only.

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03-13-2005, 06:51 AM

Posted By: Mike P.I am willing to bet the prices realized have to do more with registry competition than the card itself.

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03-13-2005, 07:04 AM

Posted By: Richard SimonIf I read this thread correctly people are spending thousands of dollars over book for common cards, just so they can say they have the best set on the planet? Sounds like these guys need to get outside a little more. Why don't they just start measuring their p---- and tell the world who is biggest? -- I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent. Unknown author -- We made a promise. We swore we'd always remember. No retreat baby, no surrender. The Boss

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03-13-2005, 08:07 AM

Posted By: David VarghaWhen people b*tch and moan about card prices going through the roof. Don't collect that set if you don't want to pay for it. Why is it that people complain when the set they want to buy is appreciating but not when set they already own is appreciating? Quite frankly, I'm glad that there are people with big bucks keeping the hobby afloat so dealers and sellers can afford to be in business to offer me the cards that I can afford. DavidVargha@hotmail.com

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03-13-2005, 08:11 AM

Posted By: T206CollectorI have to say that the prices of beaters is pretty crazy these days. I've been upgrading my near set (I'm just nine away -- 3 Cobbs, 2 Youngs, 1 Johnson, Demmitt, O'Hara, Elberfeld), and when I've been selling the upgraded beaters on ebay, I've been getting some very nice prices. Heck, I just sold an Otto Kruger on ebay for over $40 in SGC 30 condition. I won't complain about that, but just thank my lucky stars I got all the beaters I needed within the last couple of years, because now everyone it appears wants to put together a T206 set.

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03-13-2005, 08:49 AM

Posted By: JimBI agree with David. Also, we really can't compare prices on low population 8s or other high grade cards with run of the mill commons. It is a completely different market when you are talking about the kinds of folks who are trying to put together a nm/mt T206 set and someone putting together a vg set (about a $950,000 difference). Over $40 for a gd common sounds a few bucks high, but that is a far cry from $2000 for a common. In spite of them both being T206s, I think it is like comparing apples and oragnes. JimB

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03-13-2005, 10:47 AM

Posted By: JulieOne --perhaps a minor--reason you start collecting a set is because it is reassonably affordable. When it suddenly stops being affordable, you get mad. Like Fan Craze? Someone told me I was single-handedly responsible for the price rise, because I posted so many...yurg.

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03-13-2005, 11:01 AM

Posted By: ShannonI agree with Julie, so please everyone dont start collecting T207s there an ugly set.

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03-13-2005, 11:14 AM

Posted By: ms4epg1Are you going to unload those last three anytime soon? I accept almost any condition. I'm not that picky. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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03-13-2005, 11:14 AM

Posted By: Richard LloydI can understand the fustration but this is seen all over ... In the Food/regional/PCl card market where I mostly collect, the cost of cards is getting out of sight...I find myself payng big bucks for most cards...paying 200+ for specific issues is normal... 30-60 dollars for commons is becoming expected.. I think there are more collectors in the pool today and the competition for these cards is getting more competive.. From my prespective, the VINTAGE market in general is on the rise!! this means to get those cheaper cards one must look longer and harder... just my 2 cents!! Best Dick

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03-13-2005, 11:26 AM

Posted By: Cap I agree! One of my customers just paid $627 for a PSA9 card of Franco Harris from the 1973 Topps Football set. It book for $40 in Near-Mint-Mint in Beckett. It looks like it's overgraded to be honest with you and should be an '8' which can be found for $60 anywhere and much more common. My customer is ALL about the population report and he's satisfied with an '8' in a '9' holder just so he can say he owns one of the 9's. Cap Well, I quit my job so I could work alone, Then I changed my name to Sherlock Holmes- Bob Dylan.

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03-13-2005, 12:11 PM

Posted By: Lee BehrensHoly Cow, this is nuts. Obiviously some new blood in the market. This shouldn't go for more than $25. <a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=5173273489&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=5173273489&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT</a> <a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=5173273486&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=5173273486&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT</a> two guys (or gals) butting heads. The prices for T206s have been on a big upspring lately whether high grade or low grade. You certainly can't compare the price of high graded PSA cards there are a totally different animal. I personally like my SGC 40s VG that look as good as NM but are graded down because of a surface wrinkle you can barely see. Lee

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03-13-2005, 01:30 PM

Posted By: Richard LloydWould have loved to pay 25 for them!!! But, if you WANT to win then you bid to win!! and hope the guy bidding against you does not go to hi.. this time..I payed a little more.. next time I will pay 10-15... it all evens out.. Best Dick

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03-13-2005, 01:57 PM

Posted By: T206Collector...last week you could've had an SGC 50 and a PSA 4 for less money. <a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=57993&item=5170472160&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=57993&item=5170472160&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW</a> <a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=31718&item=5171824046&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=31718&item=5171824046&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW</a> The one you bought for $56.00 would be at best an SGC 30 or PSA 2 because of the two creases.

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03-13-2005, 02:00 PM

Posted By: T206CollectorYou should've checked the ebay stores. For $40 on ebay as a "buy it now" you could still have a better one: <a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=86841&item=5156212633&rd=1&ssPageName=WD1V" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=86841&item=5156212633&rd=1&ssPageName=WD1V</a>

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03-13-2005, 02:42 PM

Posted By: Richard LloydThanks... catch ya on the next go around...

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03-13-2005, 06:18 PM

Posted By: T206Collector<a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=31718&item=5172487155&rd=1" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=31718&item=5172487155&rd=1</a>

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03-13-2005, 06:45 PM

Posted By: Jeff M.Richard, Nice pick up on the Sovereigns. The seller of the lots you won was selling a large original collection of a few hundred cards, mostly all Sovereigns for the last couple of months. The prices he got for alot of his auctions was beyond what most of us would get for the same auction, I know my bidding did not help much with it. Almost all of the cards were very nice in person with little or no wear. I also agree that in the last few months that the price of even low grade T206s is on the rise with very few deals to be had any more. If people are going to pay thousands for high end cards then the low end cards will continue to rise as well since most people will be out of the buying of the high $ stuff. Just my observation on it.

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03-13-2005, 07:36 PM

Posted By: Mike P.I've been buying up low grade commons all weekend for like $10-$15 a pop, most in G-VG condition. The market hasn't inflated that bad yet. Of course the high graded, HOFers and some SLers are a different story.

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03-13-2005, 07:37 PM

Posted By: davidhobsonI read this thread and wanted to post that i have recently joined and put up several t206 cards graded that i feel are fair prices. <a href="http://nationalsportscards.com/search/searchbyseller.asp?SellerName=davidhobson&CardSold=a&submitseller=Find+Cards" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://nationalsportscards.com/search/searchbyseller.asp?SellerName=davidhobson&CardSold=a&submitseller=Find+Cards</a> Dave

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03-13-2005, 09:40 PM

Posted By: RobertI started this post and glad to see that there has been so much feedback. My point is this I realize that there are special circumstances such as rare backs and error cards and what not. But my opinion is that a common PSA 8 should not be worth more then a HOF PSA 7. It disgusts me that a common is worth more then say a Mathewson card one grade lower. There just is something seriously wrong with tath scenario. As far as population reports are considered there has to be a lot less cards submitted for common players then the hall of fammers so I do not give that stat much leverage. Yes you can get cards at a decent price that are PSA 5 and below but once you try for anything above the prices increase expotentially.

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03-13-2005, 10:03 PM

Posted By: Judge DredLook at high grade T201 cards (and probably other high end material. It kind of reminds me of the US coin hobby 20+ years ago.

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03-13-2005, 10:45 PM

Posted By: JimBRobert, I agree that it seems crazy, but that is what a free market does. A card is worth what somebody will pay for it. JimB P.S. Good luck finding a PSA 7 Mathewson for $2000 these days.

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03-13-2005, 11:32 PM

Posted By: Bottom of the NinthI think that most pre war issues have not come close to realizing their full value. It is routine for set collectors to pay thousands of dollars for PSA 8 commons from the 50's and 60's. Once these guys are done building those sets, and most are getting close, they certainly are not going to build sets from the 70's and 80's. If you think that prices are high now for pre war, just wait. The trend on T206's just continues to support my belief.

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03-14-2005, 12:12 AM

Posted By: TJ SchwartzBeen getting 90-100 for any T-206 PSA 5 common on ebay and 40-50 for most 4's. But 1933 Goudeys are also going nuts. Check this out. I just sold #5172165888, a #143 Glenn Wright in a 5 for $177.50. Guy already contacted me and can't wait to pay. He got into it with another who quit at $175. In other words, this guy would have paid MORE. A few weeks ago, the same card sold for 60 or so. Just depends on the day and who gets involved. Mid PSA graded 1933 HOF Goudeys are really going crazy too. Just look at some recent prices realized. Same goes for DeLongs. Just sold PSA 1's of Gehringer [$92] and Cuyler [$56.55] . These are ONES! Heck, even got $248 for a NY Journal American Mantle in a 2! As the high grades go insane, the lower grades are more appealing to collectors. I'll take it. TJS

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03-14-2005, 05:36 PM

Posted By: RobertA PSA 7 southern leaguer just sold for more money then a HOF PSA 7, this is F---ing crazy. Here are the links <a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=5173038065&ssPageName=STRK:MEDW:IT" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=5173038065&ssPageName=STRK:MEDW:IT</a> <a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=5173037765&ssPageName=STRK:MEDW:IT" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=5173037765&ssPageName=STRK:MEDW:IT</a>

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03-14-2005, 05:58 PM

Posted By: Brian Weisner Hi Robert, Supply and demand... Greminger 5 7's 4 8's Wheat 13 7's 10 8's I've had a few dozen offers for my High grade SLers in the past month, so there must be quite a few "High Grade" T206 collectors out there......... Be well Brian

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03-15-2005, 08:10 AM

Posted By: MillerhouseAm I the only person who thinks that the Greminger card linked above looks incredibly short top to bottom? There looks to be barely any top and bottom margin at all. And I seem to be seeing more and more PSA 7s that look this way. Frankly, without a sufficiently large scan, I'm reluctant to spring for any 7s from PSA these days.

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03-15-2005, 08:37 AM

Posted By: john/z28jdSupply and demand shouldnt really count in this case just based on the fact their is probably more hall of fame collectors than the difference in the number of high grade examples on these 2 cards.I would think the Wheat card should fall into more peoples collecting goals than an Ed Greminger,especially since this is considered Wheats rookie card. All you need is 2 people with money who really want a card then the price can go much higher than it should

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03-15-2005, 03:59 PM

Posted By: RobertBy the way that southern leaguer PSA 8 sold for $2200 and the GAI 7 Matty black cap sold for $1750 made me sick to my stomach. If i would of known that collecting commons is more valuable then collecting HOf's I still would of not done it. I guess my collection of only HOF's is not going up in value nearly as fast as the nobody's.

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03-15-2005, 06:47 PM

Posted By: LarryHi, All, I've just listed a few T206 ungraded commons on eBay, with starting bids of $1.99 each. They're not high-grade by any means, but I think they're all in decent shape, great for collecting, if not investing! Please feel free to take a look: <a href="http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=larrysg&include=0&since=-1&sort=2&rows=50&rdir=0">my eBay listings</a> Thanks! Larry

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03-15-2005, 10:55 PM

Posted By: Lee BehrensHere is a PSA 6 MK, $111, does a qualifier show up on the pop reports for a card. <a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=5172442337&ssPageName=STRK:MEDW:IT" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=5172442337&ssPageName=STRK:MEDW:IT</a> I just can't believe that people pay that kind of money for the holder, nice front but obviously no better than a 3 with the mark.