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02-25-2005, 12:37 PM
Posted By: <b>7Steve</b><p>My grandfather played for the Boston Red Sox in 1909. Does anybody have a card or picture of him or of the whole team?<br /><br />Thanks,

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02-25-2005, 12:49 PM
Posted By: <b>Trae R.</b><p>That is too cool!<br /><br />I found this:<br /><a href="http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/player.php?p=howarpa01" target="_new" rel="nofollow"><a href="http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/player.php?p=howarpa01</a" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/player.php?p=howarpa01</a</a>><br /><br />Which says his nickname was "Del", here is the Del Howard card from the T206 set (however it doesn't suggest Boston on the card - maybe we have a new T206 error card!!! haha):<br /><br /><img src="http://www.mlbvintage.com/t206/images/set_minis/Howard,Del.jpg"><br /><br /><img src="http://www.mlbvintage.com/pics/uploads/delhowardbig.jpg"><br /><br />Maybe there were two Del Howards?

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02-25-2005, 12:55 PM
Posted By: <b>Andy Baran</b><p>If you check baseball-reference, there was also a Del Howard on the 1909 Chicago Cubs, and it was not the same player.

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02-25-2005, 01:09 PM
Posted By: <b>Trae R.</b><p>Whoops - well I tried. Thanks for the correction. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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02-25-2005, 01:09 PM
Posted By: <b>Steve</b><p>Thanks.......I think the "Del" nickname is wrong. I remember my father telling me that his nickname was Pauly or maybe it was spelled Polly. I know my dad had a really great picture of him in his Boston uniform. It was definitely a professional shot......black and white....around 5"x7". It looked like it could have been a shot that might appear on a card. Sadly the framed picture is among the missing. Nobody in the family can find. <br /><br />Steve

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02-25-2005, 03:55 PM
Posted By: <b>davidcycleback</b><p>George 'Del' Howard played for a number of years Pre-1910, including 1906-7 for the Red Sox.<br /><br />Paul (sometimes listed/nicknamed as 'Del') Howard, the initial poster's grandfather, played for a handful of games for the 1909 Red Sox.

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02-25-2005, 04:10 PM
Posted By: <b>Rob_L</b><p>So here is that tintype of several 1903 Cubs (Jones, Moriarty, Lowe and Lundgen) sitting with 'Del' Howard in the lower left corner. Which Del is it? <br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1109376498.JPG">

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02-25-2005, 04:42 PM
Posted By: <b>davidcycleback</b><p>It is George Del, not Paul, on both the tintype and the T206 card.

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02-25-2005, 05:04 PM
Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>My database doesn't show any cards for Paul Howard. The only Howard I show is George "Del" and Ivon. Sorry, no Paul.<br /><br />Jay<br><br>I've just reached Upper Lower Class. I am now officially a babe magnet for poor chicks.

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02-25-2005, 05:33 PM
Posted By: <b>Max Weder</b><p>Does anyone know where 1909 Red Sox Paul Howard played in the minors? Someone then may at least have a minor league photo of him or his team, or, hope beating eternal, a minor league card.<br /><br />Max

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02-25-2005, 05:55 PM
Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>Max, no minor league card. My database includes those too. Of the 2384 cards in the player set I am working on, 843 have only one card, most of them in either the Zeenut and Old Mill sets.<br /><br />Jay<br><br>I've just reached Upper Lower Class. I am now officially a babe magnet for poor chicks.