McPhee

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Posted By: <b>Paul</b><p>I see that several of you are bidding on my McPhee. Please take pity on me. You can wait until the next one come along.

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Posted By: <b>Mark</b><p>Paul, I'm sure not of your ebay id, so did you come close to winning? My bid was the leader with 9 seconds to go, but $2400 short in the end..lol.

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Posted By: <b>Jim Clarke</b><p>My snipe ended up being a FART-IN-THE-WIND!

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Posted By: <b>Chris B.</b><p>anyone know who the winner is - josepheneela (sp?) - seems like he is a winner on a lot of high-priced items.

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Posted By: <b>Julie</b><p>......

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>Given the fact that McPhee is on the want list of most HOF collectors it's probably not out of line. Shocking, yes, but probably not out of line.<br /><br />Jay<br><br>Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming --- WOW, What a ride!

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Posted By: <b>Kevin Cummings</b><p>The winner is actually a father/son tag team. I sold them a couple of Old Judges a while back. I've actually met the father half of the duo, but I have only spoken to the son. Both are extremely nice.

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Posted By: <b>HW</b><p>Boy, that seems to be a real high price. I know that a lot of people need him for their Hall Of Fame collections, but it still seem too much.<br /><br />Maybe tis pose of McPhee is especially difficult. Does he have a difficult pose?

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Posted By: <b>Jay Miller</b><p>I agree that the price was too high. McPhees seem to be coming out. The Oregon find had three, here is one, the Mastro auction had one. To my knowledge no pose of McPhee is any more difficult than any other pose.

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Posted By: <b>Julie</b><p> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/jphotos/mcphes.JPG">

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Posted By: <b>Matt Goebel</b><p>I am not suprised at all by the frenzy over Old Judge McPhee cards - if you want a card of every available HOFer then you have to have it, and it is certainly in limited supply. My question is why doesn't this phenomenon translate to other HOFers who have fewer existing cards and are arguably more deserving denizens of Cooperstown's hallowed halls. I'm speaking, of course, of the great Negro League HOFers that are represented in the Cuban and Puerto Rican sets - Hilton Smith, Leon Day, Oscar Charleston, Pop Lloyd, etc. I don't mean this post to be self-serving, I'd really like to hear opinions on this subject.

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Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>They didn't play in the major leagues, and a lot of people are less familiar with them or in fact never heard of them. Also, Old Judge is a classic set- the Negro League players might show up in Aguilitas or Billiken or not at all. Many factors involved here.

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Posted By: <b>Judge Dred</b><p>According to hobby references there are 5 Bid McPhee poses for the N172 set so it really shouldn't be so scarce. He was inducted into the HOF in 2000. Most people probably hadn't even heard of Bid McPhee prior to that and most people could probably care less about having his card (up to that point). <br /><br />Jay Miller indicated that there were 3 of his cards in the Oregon Find. This is a great indicator of scarcity because the Oregon Find was so random and it had a great variety of cards. Three cards of the same player in such a vast collection "could" mean that the scarcity is only a perception and as stated in this thread there are a few people that need to have it for their N172 HOF collections. I would guess that we'll see more of these come out of the wood work. I wouldn't say we are going to see dozens of them but with the prices paid being so high it may coax a few people to offer them up for auction. If enough of them show up it may influence the price lower.

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Posted By: <b>Paul</b><p>I was out of town when this auction ended, and was disguisted, but not surprised, by the price. I'll have to keep looking. Don't these exist in lower grade?<br /><br />I was surprised to hear that there were 3 McPhees in the Oregon Find. I was only aware of two of them.

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Posted By: <b>Julie</b><p>Mayo Nichols (I know there's a N172, but I've never been close to getting one--and ther Mayo is a great card). Wilbert Robinson--also in the Old Judge, but I only have the Mayo. Just got a Hamilton Old Judge--have had a Mayo for years. And my only Brouthers is an N162 (except for Scrapps and Tobin Litho.). Why does everything have to be Old Judge. I like them too, but 6K for THAT Old Judge? I think it's too much...

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Posted By: <b>Paul</b><p>Sadly, McPhee is only in Old Judge -- at least as far as cards go. I know you have that nice scorecard, but I'm looking for a card card.

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Posted By: <b>Julie</b><p>would you bid on that?

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Posted By: <b>Paul</b><p>I guess I'd have to say "it depends". The more I could convince myself that the cabinet card was available in some way to the public, the more I would consider it a "card," and the more likely I would bid on it. But if it was just made for the player or his family, or otherwise was unavailable to the public, I wouldn't.<br /><br />I do think cabinet cards are often very nice, and if I had unlimited funds, I would collect them. There's a beautiful McGraw with Baltimore, Chesbro with a minor league team, and lots of other great ones. If I had the money to buy them, I would treasure them more than most of my cards. But I wouldn't want the McGraw with Baltimore to be my only McGraw, or the minor league Chesbro to be my only Chesbro. I want to have a regular card of all HOFers.

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Posted By: <b>Hal Lewis</b><p>Don't do it Paul!!<br /><br />Don't fall for the cabinet "card" temptation!!<br /><br />Stick with your true feelings!!<br /><br />Real CARDS only!!!

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Posted By: <b>Paul</b><p>Strong is the lure of the dark side.

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Posted By: <b>Judge Dred</b><p>The auction has only been active for a few hours - starting bid at $100.<br /><br />John, good luck with the N167 Corcoran - yikes, it's not much better. <br /><br /><br /><font color="red">1887 N172 Old Judge Cigarettes Bid McPhee - SGC 50 VG/EX 4 <br /> <br />Lot Number 287 <br />Bidding Start 2/14/2005 - 10:00 AM <br />Bidding Ends 10 day(s), 06:23:58 <br />Number of Bids 4 <br /><br />Current Bid $5,679.00 <br />Next Minimum Bid $6,247.00</font> <br /> <br />

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Posted By: <b>Paul</b><p>As Bart Simpson would say, this sucks and blows at the same time.

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Posted By: <b>john/z28jd</b><p>I actually had no interest in the Corcoran Fred,i just pretended to be interested so the price would go high enough that i wouldnt feel bad not bidding on it.Its still not there yet so maybe i will bid tho <img src="/images/wink.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />I only collect N172's of him,nothing else.<br /><br />I had to work early today than got stuck at work,so by the time i got home everything i was even thinking about bidding on was already higher than my max. Basically means i got shut out before i even placed a bid

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Posted By: <b>Julie</b><p>hey, it's only outrageous...