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02-08-2005, 06:59 PM
Posted By: <b>Julie</b><p><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/jphotos/1919TicketStub.jpg"> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/jphotos/1919TicketStubBack2.jpg">

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02-08-2005, 07:26 PM
Posted By: <b>MW</b><p>Are those yours Julie? If so, nice acquisition!

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02-08-2005, 07:29 PM
Posted By: <b>Julie</b><p>It's the front and back of one stub. $1444.19...35 bids...I think I got a steal!

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02-08-2005, 07:55 PM
Posted By: <b>andy becker</b><p>congrats julie!!!! museum quality!!! <br />when are you slabbing it? <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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02-08-2005, 08:03 PM
Posted By: <b>ramram</b><p>Section H, Seat 84 is where conspirator/gambler William Thomas "Sleepy Bill" Burns sat during the third game. <img src="/images/wink.gif" height=14 width=14><br />

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02-08-2005, 09:28 PM
Posted By: <b>tbob</b><p>Julie- I'm just glad you are one of the few here who isn't collecting 1909-1915 caramel cards. I keep hoping more and more of you will get hooked on Old Judges, Goudeys, and tobacco cards.

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02-08-2005, 09:39 PM
Posted By: <b>Ben</b><p>Great pickup Julie, this piece sure adds that extra dimension to your Black Sox collection. Does anyone with any experience in ticket stubs recall the last time a 1919 WS stub was offered for sale? If so, where and how much? Sure seems like an awfully good deal Julie got, but I know next to nothing about the market on rare ticket stubs.

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02-08-2005, 11:04 PM
Posted By: <b>Judge Dred</b><p>Julie,<br /><br />It's a fake!!! Now sell it on ebay with a cheap BIN so that I can own it. <br /><br />WOW!!! THAT IS NICE!!!

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02-09-2005, 05:48 AM
Posted By: <b>Richard Simon</b><p>PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE don't slab it.<br /><br /><br />-------<br><br>I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent.

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02-09-2005, 05:52 AM
Posted By: <b>jamie</b><p>there was one being offered on the bay within the last year. im 99% sure it sold for $2500 with the buyer trying to flip it quickly at an inflated amount over that (with no bites)<br /><br />beautiful item, gotta be one of the holy grails for stub collectors. looks like someone was using that stub to keep score which is very cool!

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02-09-2005, 07:54 AM
Posted By: <b>steve k</b><p>Julie that was a steal. Great buy and very nice ticket!

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02-09-2005, 08:49 AM
Posted By: <b>john/z28jd</b><p>in November 2003 Lew Lipset sold a full ticket stub torn in half from game 3 for $916 bucks after the juice.Thats the last sale i actually know offhand but im sure theres been others. There was over 258,000 people who attended the 8 game series,so im sure if anyone wants one for themselves now,theyre out there,you just gotta find someone willing to sell theirs.Getting a full untorn ticket stub might be pretty tough tho as probably for every 20 torn ticket stubs that existed there was only 1 unused<br /><br />if you go to www.blackbetsy.com you can view tickets to most if not all of the games.Maybe they would like a scan of yours Julie

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02-09-2005, 11:15 AM
Posted By: <b>Julie</b><p>selling one, but it certainly is possible--as you say, a lot of people saw 8 games (if there's anyone who doesn't know, it was supposed to be the best of 9, but went 8). I'll contact Black Betsy--they already use my mysterious photo of Joe.<br /><br />I'm specially thrilled because it's a Comiskey Park game (one of the two Kerr one--of course I'd prefer a Cicotte or Williams game, but Kerr's is fine) and, as someone pointed out--someone was keeping score on the back! LOVE messy backs; they're so often interesting! The seller was offered dough to end the auction early 6 times (I thought the darned thing was going to go for twice the price!), and ticket belonged to an elderly man in Vernmont (seller also lives in Vermont), who had no idea what he had, and will be glad of the 75% of selling price. He's in poor health. <br /><br />The stub went for exactly what Marek Macrae said--maybe he said a little closer to 2K; anyway, I was surprised it went so cheap. But then, only a stub from a 1919 World Series game....hee!!! <br /><br />That IS an "untorn stub"; did you mean a full ticket? That['s the front and back of the same stub. A full ticket would be unused.

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02-09-2005, 01:10 PM
Posted By: <b>Rob L</b><p>AWESOME. Congrats Julie.

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02-09-2005, 01:18 PM
Posted By: <b>davidcycleback</b><p>Julie, you should attractively matte and frame the stub with a few of your original Black Sox photos. I bet that display piece would be worth some good $$.

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02-09-2005, 01:20 PM
Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>Nice one Julie....congrats......I am sure you are very proud of it...and should be....best regards

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02-09-2005, 01:56 PM
Posted By: <b>Julie</b><p>My stub is from the 5th game (the 3rd played in Chicago), so it's Lefty Williams second game. Goody. He's the only pitcher ever to have lost 3 games in one World Series...<br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/jphotos/BSLefHOF001.jpg"> <br /><br />This photo is from the HOF library ($25); I don't especially like my Conlon photo of him, so I got this one too.

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02-09-2005, 01:59 PM
Posted By: <b>Julie</b><p>on my website <a href="http://www.geocities.com/julie_vognar/home" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.geocities.com/julie_vognar/home</a> <br /><br />Sorry, there was a comma where a period should be..

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02-09-2005, 05:49 PM
Posted By: <b>qualitycards</b><p>"Lefty Williams second game. Goody. He's the only pitcher ever to have lost 3 games in one World Series..."<br /><br />JULIE - In 1981 Yankees George Frazier lost 3 games to the Dodgers. Not sure if anyone else lost 3 games,but I know he did.

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02-09-2005, 06:39 PM
Posted By: <b>Julie Vognar</b><p><br />Here's www.blackbetsy.com's ticket to the same game. More expensive seating; different color.<br /><br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/jphotos/1919game5ticketstub2.jpg">

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02-10-2005, 10:05 AM
Posted By: <b>pete</b><p>julie, i believe that the ticket stub you have is really mine, that old man in vermont took it from me while standing in line to get into the game...i remember he was wearing a black jacket and hat so it would be hard to find him once he started to run...<br /><br />and i too was bidding on two of the 1919 series stubs about a year ago, one from cinci and the other from chicago...if i remember correctly they went for about $2500 and $3500...of course the chicago stub was the higher one...

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02-10-2005, 10:29 AM
Posted By: <b>Gilbert Maines</b><p>Well Julie, the other may be the more expensive seating, but yours is the richer colored and (to some) is game used.

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02-10-2005, 01:30 PM
Posted By: <b>Julie</b><p>Blacksox people (very scholarly)into mild confusion. it was one of their members who figured out that the tickets were numbered according to the number of games played in the CITY AT HAND (Chicago or Cincinnati), and they have plenty of proof--a "game 2" ticket from Cincinnati and one from Chicago, but something about the writing on the back of my ticket makes this brainstormer think my ticket was scored only through the 3rd game. So was it, in fact,. the first game played in Chicago (game 3)? Or was it the 3rd game played in Chicago (game 5?). I can't figure the writing out so exactly--except that it appears to me to have all been done at the same time, and I can think of dozens of reasons why someone would be writing the score of game 3 on the baCK OF A GAME 5 TICKET, BUT ANYWAY, HE'S PUZZLING IT OUT. I don't have it yet. I'll use a scope when registered mail has done its thing.<br />\<br />new price: 2002, "almost complete" (whatever that means!) ticket to game 1 (in Cincinnati), $894. No firther details available.