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01-19-2005, 02:19 PM
Posted By: <b>Robert A</b><p>When's the last time someone has seen a T208 on ebay?<br />I know some of you fellas do own a couple or have owned a few in the past, (Jay, I think you have shown remorse about parting with a group that you had)but how rare are these bad boys?<br />I know they are significantly more rare than the E104s, but are they that much more rare than d359s? I mean, you never see d359s either, right?<br />Any opinions?<br />thanks.<br />robert a.

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01-19-2005, 02:30 PM
Posted By: <b>warshawlaw</b><p>Cards like the ones you mentioned just do not come up for sale on ebay except once in a very long while. The big auctioneers might have some, but the best place will be the National. I saw and/or picked up several really tough cards there and passed on a few I now wish I'd bought.

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01-19-2005, 02:38 PM
Posted By: <b>Wesley</b><p><a href="http://www.botn.com/ff.html" target=_new>http://www.botn.com/ff.html</a><br /><br /><br />I don't know if BOTN is selling them or just posting them for someone else.<br /><br />

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01-19-2005, 03:37 PM
Posted By: <b>Robert A</b><p>Yes, I am familiar with that lot...nice cards.<br />I believe botn is/was offering them on consignment for a collector who has a complete set already in the bag.

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01-19-2005, 04:18 PM
Posted By: <b>Glen V</b><p>I bought one off ebay around 4-5 years ago. Only seen one, maybe two on there since. I don't pay a lot of attention to which major auctions have them, but don't recall seeing more than 6-7 of them in the last 5 or so years.<br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1106180292.JPG">

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01-19-2005, 04:48 PM
Posted By: <b>peter</b><p>i PICKED UP A D359 OFF EBAY 1 1/2 YEARS AGO FOR A VERY FAIR PRICE but have not seen any t208's at all. I think the t208's are much more rare than d359's.

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01-19-2005, 05:09 PM
Posted By: <b>Robert A</b><p>I wonder if anyone has assembled a complete set?

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01-19-2005, 05:27 PM
Posted By: <b>scott brockelman</b><p>legendary dealer/collector don steinbach former partner of bill mastro had a complete set(among other rare sets and near sets). it was auctioned in the september 1997 mastro & steinbach auction shortly after his death.<br /><br />

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01-19-2005, 05:30 PM
Posted By: <b>Robert A</b><p>Scott.<br />What the set auctioned as a set or broken?<br />Did it stay with one person?

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01-19-2005, 05:30 PM
Posted By: <b>Matthew Jackson</b><p>What are they selling for? Someone mentioned seeing some at the National; does anyone remember prices? I would also wonder if anyone had ideas on just why they are so rare?

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01-19-2005, 05:33 PM
Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>I have seen about 25x-30x more D359's than I have T208's. That's just me though and others may see, or have seen, something different. I don't think there were any for sale at the last several Nationals, at least that I saw. I had my personal type card on display so it could have been it that someone spoke about. regards

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01-19-2005, 05:47 PM
Posted By: <b>Robert A</b><p>I definitely imagine that t208s are several times more rare than d359s, I just wanted to emphasize how little "we" see d359s to put the t208s in perspective. <br /><br />Matthew: Past posts have mentioned a t208 selling for $12,000 if I'm not mistaken.

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01-19-2005, 06:14 PM
Posted By: <b>Glen V</b><p>The May '04 Robert Edwards auction had one that went for $3,450: <a href="http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/site/bid/bidplace.asp?itemid=163" target=_new>http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/site/bid/bidplace.asp?itemid=163</a>

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01-19-2005, 06:28 PM
Posted By: <b>Dan Koteles</b><p>amongst the most of the rarest of all cards. I must have missed that particular R.E auction or it would have went for more or would have been mine. I have seen 5 offered since 1987 and did not see the full set auctioned either ....though I doubt that I would have been able to afford it.<br /><br />I know of someone that does have one trimmed 1/8 inch at top ,otherwise vg x and wants very little, i do not own a trimmed card and have debated buying this for sometime now. <br /><br />Leon ?????????????????????????????????????????/<br /><br /><br />I hope to have one someday....hmmmm......

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01-19-2005, 06:43 PM
Posted By: <b>Rhys</b><p>There was an Ira Thomas on ebay about 5 months ago. The seller ended the auction early to relist it with a reserve but ended up selling it outright for $1500. I would say it was GVG or so but looked very presentable. That was the only one I had seen in about 3-4 years on ebay.<br /><br />Rhys

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01-19-2005, 07:35 PM
Posted By: <b>Dan Koteles</b><p>looks like a pretty presentable card , who is your player ?<br /><br />thank you

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01-19-2005, 07:50 PM
Posted By: <b>Glen V</b><p>Bris Lord. At least the important back is presentable, the front isn't so lucky.

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01-19-2005, 08:19 PM
Posted By: <b>Dan Koteles</b><p>that's quite alright...you are one of few that have one !<br /><br />Good job

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01-20-2005, 12:17 AM
Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>You guys are killing me. It's bad enough that I sold all 6 of t208s, but I had all the key cards and they were all crease free. Prolly would have graded out no worse than VG/Ex. I don't miss my t205 set one bit, but kick myself every day for letting the t208s go.<br /><br />Jay<br><br>Wow upside down is Mom. Mom upside down is what dad wants to see.

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01-20-2005, 05:54 AM
Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>Let's make a deal....I won't talk about whatever you don't want me to and you won't tell us for the 3,000,000th time how you sold the T208's? Deal? <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> regards

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01-20-2005, 08:49 AM
Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>Deal, that means, I've got only 2,937,853 times left to mention it :p<br />I would have never missed them if I hadn't got back into the hobby. It's like heroin, you can't truely ever give it up. And you can also blame Lee, since he is the one responsible for my relapse.<br /><br />Jay<br><br>Wow upside down is Mom. Mom upside down is what dad wants to see.

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01-20-2005, 09:11 AM
Posted By: <b>Bruce Babcock</b><p><img src="http://homepage.mac.com/thurber51/.Pictures/Fronts%20&%20Backs/Cullivan's%20Davis.JPG"> <img src="http://homepage.mac.com/thurber51/.Pictures/Fronts%20&%20Backs/Cullivan's%20back.JPG"><br /><br />I won this card on ebay from David Bryan in 2001 for $1500. While I now have have 1 T208 and 9 D359s, I couldn't find any of the eight I needed to complete the set of "World's Champion's 1910" fronts I need in four years of trying. I picked up the Mack, which turns out to be one of the toughest D359s, for $107.36 from Sportscards+ in 2000, in a PSA 3 (MK) no less. Most of the others cost me $200-250 each. Times have changed.<br /><br />The ten different "World's Champion's 1910" fronts I own can be viewed at:<br /><br /><a href="http://homepage.mac.com/thurber51/PhotoAlbum66.html" target=_new>http://homepage.mac.com/thurber51/PhotoAlbum66.html</a>

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01-20-2005, 10:12 AM
Posted By: <b>Bruce Babcock</b><p><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/uffda51/E104.JPG"><br /><br />Has anyone else ever seen an E104 with a back stamp like this?

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01-20-2005, 11:07 AM
Posted By: <b>Robert A</b><p>Bruce,<br />I think I just bought an e104-1 with a stamp like that on the back, but not sure cuz' I havn't recieved it yet.<br />I'll let you know.<br />robert a