M116 Cy Seymour Baltimore Variation

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Posted By: <b>Preece1</b><p>I was the underbidder for the M116 Seymour Baltimore variation in the Lipset Auction (Spring 04). I have heard that there were a couple of other copies of this variation for sale in the last 3 years. Does anyone have any information on where they are now? If any are still for sale?

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Posted By: <b>scott brockelman</b><p>as you know the cards exists in 2 different print processes, lipset had the finished 300 series back as well as the blank back, black & white versions. i also have one of the blank back, black & white versions. my question is what is the black & white one? it is on actual card stock, not cardboard like as ad piece and why would they pick cy seymour who changed teams for an ad piece of all peoplem, as sporting life always used top notch players in their ads. printers scrap? doesn't look like it but both the lipset card and mine are handcut.<br /><br />of very much importance is the fact that i have a sporting life ad paper poster from 1910 that lists cy seymour in the 7th series as being on BALTIMORE not New York! but according to the baseball almanac he had not played for Baltimore for several years. i also have a series 7 envelope that the cards came in, which lists him with New York Nationals. i would say it is safe to say that the Baltimore version was printed 1st. so perhaps the few cards that are black and white are left over unfinished runs, but as i have only seen 2 they must be extremely rare as well.<br /><br /><img src="http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/3559477/1107809161602_DSC00188.JPG"><br /><br />does anyone on the board have this card in any form to compare with?<br /><br />scott

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Posted By: <b>Tbob</b><p>"Rare" is a word which is tossed around alot in our hobby and especially when describing cards on ebay or in other auctions, but Scott's Seymour and this Mitchell are the only two Black and Whites I know of from this set. I know it is possible others exist, does anyone else have one and if so could you post a scan or e-mail me one for my article? GAI would not go so far as to label this blank backed Mitchell as a "proof," but I find it hard to believe it is anything but a proof. Very similar to the E97 Black and White proof set.<br /><br /><img src="http://members.aol.com/trophybob/mitchell.jpg"><br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>tbob</b><p>As is obvious by the scan, mine appears handcut also.

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Posted By: <b>tbob</b><p>we won't be seeing any more of these grades being handed out...

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Posted By: <b>Scott Elkins</b><p>I have another Ty Cobb strip card with them in the batch of cards I sent a week or so ago - the last one I sent they slabbed it authentic and I was hoping for the same this time.