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11-27-2004, 11:39 AM
Posted By: <b>runscott</b><p>I thought this was a joke at first, but I'm thinking now that he's serious: <a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=86840&item=5142930671&rd=1" target=_new>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=86840&item=5142930671&rd=1</a>

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11-27-2004, 11:47 AM
Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>my vote....it's both

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11-27-2004, 12:35 PM
Posted By: <b>petecld</b><p>If you think selling a web address is the joke, it's not. Used to be a common practice before the "dotcom" bubble burst.<br /><br />The real joke though is the asking price.

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11-27-2004, 12:52 PM
Posted By: <b>Scott</b><p><img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> I'm kind of bummed - I thought I might sneak out of Leland's with an Andy Warhol painting (great for a batchelor pad wall!), but I'm back to bidding on over-priced cards...but not domain names. Still master of my own lack of domain.

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11-27-2004, 01:49 PM
Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>I should have listened to friends back in the early days of WWW. They went and bought up all sorts of comapny names and made a small fortune cybersquatting on the likes of www.generalmills.com, etc. You can't do that anymore becuase it is now illegal, but in the early days, there was a ton of money to be made in it. <br /><br />Now days, the only domain names that bring good money are generic names like ww.home.com. I think that one recently sold for several million dollars. But that is the exception and not the rule these days. I know www.hell.com went for a huge sum also and was the record holder for highest price paid for a domain name until home.com sold.<br /><br />Jay<br><br>I saw weird stuff in that place last night. Weird, strange, sick, twisted, eerie, godless, evil stuff. And I want in.

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11-27-2004, 02:14 PM
Posted By: <b>E. Angyal</b><p>Jverri has lost his mind...........

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11-27-2004, 03:13 PM
Posted By: <b>BRIANKW</b><p><br /><br /> Hi guys,<br /> Give James a break, he's simply trying to sell an asset. Is the price too high? Probably, but so what. He has invested a lot of time and effort in building his site, and deserves to reap some benefits. Will anyone pay 10,000 for the name, NO, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't try. Hell, look at Richard's post, someone bought a WalMart $125 gift card for $127.50, so never say never. Be well Brian

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11-27-2004, 03:24 PM
Posted By: <b>Judge Dred</b><p>Heck, we don't even know what the reserve is. It could be $10, well maybe not but we don't know that for sure. Anyone want to start bidding it up? $1.25, $1.50, $2......

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11-27-2004, 03:52 PM
Posted By: <b>john/z28jd</b><p>James is a great guy and if he can sell it for his asking price then why not,it cant hurt to at least try.I think its priced high too but its not a ridiculous notion to try to sell a website that im sure at one point alot of people had bookmarked.<br /><br />I think the timing of the sale is a little off as it hasnt been used recently but think of it this way,putting up an auction for his old website is a good way to advertise for his current website,its right there on the masstercards site and in the auction description.<br /><br />The only person that might pay the buy it now is someone in Massachusettes who has the cards to start a business and they can take advantage of the free advertising that this auction and this thread gives them.Other than that probably a couple hundred people have the website bookmarked and check it from time to time,i know i have sites i do that with.Id want to get an actual visitor count for the past few months at least before i decided to bid.<br /><br />If the reserve is 10 bucks tho,im all over it,maybe even as high as 20

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11-27-2004, 03:56 PM
Posted By: <b>hankron</b><p>Scott, you could have bought Charlie Sheen's Lucky Strike baseball signs that included his letter testifying that the damage to one of the frames was caused by him throwing a Vokda bottle at it during a party.

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11-28-2004, 09:20 AM
Posted By: <b>Scott</b><p>...that I was bidding on. He buys/sells lots of stuff through auctions - I guess he gets bored easily.<br /><br />I think a good one would be a Sheen-owned Warhol Campbell soup painting, with a Sheen-thrown can of soup sticking out of it. Of course I would require provenance.

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11-28-2004, 11:36 PM
Posted By: <b>Max Weder</b><p>My friend has a signed Ralph Steadman book introduced by Hunter Thompson (Gonzo: The Art) where Hunter and his drinking buddy Ralph Steadman ended up firing a 44 S&W at and through the book. I believe my friend paid around $700 on ebay for this performance piece. So sometimes this sort of provenance can add value, strangely enough. The other shot up copy is offered at $7500 (<a href="http://dogbert.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?bx=off&sts=t&ds=30&bi=0&an=hunter+thompson&kn=bullet&sortby=2" target=_new>http://dogbert.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?bx=off&sts=t&ds=30&bi=0&an=hunter+thompson&kn=bullet&sortby=2</a> ) in case anyone is interested.<br /><br />Max

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11-29-2004, 08:49 AM
Posted By: <b>baseballvintage</b><p>I am really puzzled here. Why has this listing caused such a reaction? <br /><br />I have paid $15 year for a number of years to reserve and maintain this domain name. I have spent money on web design, I have spent money on marketing, and I have spent countless hours promoting the site. Therefor, the rights to the domain name carries "a" dollar value. That dollar value is equal to the amount any buyer is willing to pay for it. To disagree is unrealistic of you.<br /><br />Eric A. - exactly how do you conclude from this that I have lost my mind? I could not disagree with you more strongly. I feel that I am making a very sound decision. Do you suggest that I give this away? I think you owe me an explanation for this comment.<br /><br />Pete - you say "the real joke is the asking price". You don't even KNOW what the asking price is, so how can you make such a statement? My asking price is buried in a reserve amount, which is not disclosed until it is reached. How is it that you are privy to information noone else has access to? Or, is it simply that you are disseminating inaccurate information, because what you really meant to say was you thought the "buy now" price was unreasonable?<br /><br />How any of you can find this sale questionable is completely beyond me. <br /><br />And, Scott - How is it that you consistently have such an inordinately large amount of free time? Are you in prison...? <br /><br />In the future - if anyone has any questions or comments about ANY of my listings - I encourage you to contact me DIRECTLY. There have been 11 posts to this thread and I didn't even know it EXISTED until I just happened to be browsing through the board. Nobody feels like I need to know this discussion about me is taking place? You are discussing my reputation and listings on a public forum on the internet. That is a global audience you are addressing, this is not the front porch of the country store.<br /><br />James Verrill<br />james_verrill@yahoo.com<br />

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11-29-2004, 10:06 AM
Posted By: <b>Gilbert Maines</b><p>James, you are correct in your assessment that this is a global forum on the internet. This is precisely why I feel it inappropriate to make our worldwide, card collecting, incarcerated, brothers and sisters self conscious regarding the amount of research time which they can dedicate to our hobby.<br /><br />You also appear to overlook that for many this hobby is intended to be fun. As such, occasionally hypersensitive individuals may be offended by some of the jokes made about them or their actions.<br /><br />Although this forum includes dealers, investors, experts from various disciplines and others; some of the collectors may object to abiding by the laws which you offer regarding our behavior.

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11-29-2004, 10:27 AM
Posted By: <b>petecld</b><p>James,<br /><br />You DID set an asking price, on eBay it's called a "Buy-It-Now" price. A reserve price in an auction is meerly the "acceptable minimum bid" you are willing to allow the item to be sold for so yes, it is the $10K Buy-It-Now YOU set in which I was referring to. Realizing I was dealing with one of the better members of this hobby for "disseminating inaccurate information" I certainly wouldn't try to put one past you. Oh James, are you still under legal, contractual, obligation to sell that fake T206 Wagner as authentic? Just curious....<br /><br />EVERYONE pays for a web address. That fact adds no value to a web name and is the cost of doing business. Even the new owner of that web address will have to pay a fee so how does that add any value to the web name? Your web design - I am well aware of the time and effort it takes to put a site together - will be useless to the new owner so again, how does that add value of the name? Besides, if you go to "masstercards.com" all you get a page linking you to another site. <br /><br />What makes web address valueable is recognition. Wal-Mart wants their web address to be "wal-mart.com," target wants "target.com" etc. They would have no use to own "masstercards.com," so unless a compny has/wants the name "masstercards" your web name will have little to no value to a company with any other name.<br /><br />Countles hours marketing and promoting? If "masstercards" is so valueable and held in such high esteem in the hobby then why is your eBay name AND web address "baseballvintage" ? If you really want to market and promote "masstercards" then those should have been your eBay ID and company web address. THAT is promoting and marketing. Sorry, but if you want people to recognize your name, you actually have to use the name. <br /><br />Yes, we are discussing you on this forum. That is what happens in a free forum where people are allowed to voice their opinions. Of course you have the right sell the name if you own it...of course you have the right to set a value to that name....doesn't mean everyone has to agree with that price nor loose the right to voice their opinions regarding that price. Like you said, it's all about what someone is willing to pay and if someone wants to pay $10K for that web name - congratulations on a fantastic sale!!!<br />

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11-29-2004, 11:12 AM
Posted By: <b>Scott Elkins</b><p>Hey Pete,<br /><br />Speaking of websites, just wondering if you are going to put the images back up for the caramels on your site? I thought they were really helpful for caramel "newbies" like myself to find cards they would like to ownl Afterall, you don't see all those card images on eBay at one time! BTW - love your site and thanks for having it!

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11-29-2004, 11:59 AM
Posted By: <b>runscott</b><p>They are letting me out next week, so you better watch out.<br /><br />You shouldn't be upset just because you stepped off the porch for a moment.<br />