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11-05-2004, 11:07 AM
Posted By: <b>CharlieTrunks</b><p>This a great early photo of Ty Cobb on ebay but it is being sold as a Rookie-year photo. My eye tells me later, maybe 1907? <a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=44817&item=5134982960&rd=1" target=_new>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=44817&item=5134982960&rd=1</a>

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11-05-2004, 11:18 AM
Posted By: <b>Gary B.</b><p>My God, the bidding is at $2,500 - is it just me, or does that sound totally outrageous? I don't collect photos, so I guess I have no idea of what the market is for this, but that's a LOT of money for a photograph IMHO...

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11-05-2004, 11:48 AM
Posted By: <b>Charlite T</b><p>That one ended with a bang-$4000-Still, I don't think Hughie Jennings was with the team until 1907-and the dark hats weren't worn that early either.

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11-05-2004, 11:48 AM
Posted By: <b>steve k</b><p>Bidding is over $4,000 now. But that is one terrific photograph.

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11-05-2004, 12:17 PM
Posted By: <b>hankron</b><p>Three of several questions bidders could have asked when considering what to bid:<br /><br />1) How big is it? (hint: it's not a big panorama)<br />2) Why do you say it's from 1905 and not another year? (As Charlie noted, baseball records show Jennings becoming a Tiger in 1907)<br />3) How many original Jean Shrimpton photos could I buy with that $4,000?<br /><br />Obviously, #3 would be the deal killer for me.

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11-05-2004, 01:36 PM
Posted By: <b>dennis</b><p>but doesn't the buyer run their own auctions.they probably feel they can resell for a lot more than they paid.

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11-05-2004, 01:42 PM
Posted By: <b>Charlie</b><p>I was intrigued by the detail of the description and the seller's case for it being the first ever photo of Ty Cobb in a Detroit uniform, but unfortunately I think it is way off. Great photo though-might be on the road at Cleveland's ballpark.

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11-05-2004, 02:51 PM
Posted By: <b>runscott</b><p><a href="http://www.network54.com/Forum/thread?forumid=273838&messageid=1098839314&lp=1099664103" target=_new>http://www.network54.com/Forum/thread?forumid=273838&messageid=1098839314&lp=1099664103</a><br /><br />The discussions on the vintage baseball photography forum are admittedly one-sided - for the most part it's simply a place for me to maintain notes about vintage baseball photography. But your input is welcomed, and I'm not going to abandon it under any circumstances. In fact, at David's suggestion, I might even start a small newsletter...with undetermined and totally unpredictable publication dates. So if you are interested in vintage baseball photography, please jump in.<br /><br />By the way, I won about 9 photos in Lexibell's most recent auction, but my hope that the Van Oeyen Detroit team photo would go un-noticed...obviously didn't happen.

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11-05-2004, 02:52 PM
Posted By: <b>hankron</b><p>If the winner wants to bid $4,000+ on the photo so be it. The names of the players were clearly listed in the description, so the winning bidder had ample chance to research the date himself. And maybe he did. While it would be inconvenient to do this type of player check on every $10 and $15 team photo that comes down the road, it would seem wise when about to place a $4,000 bid on a photo labelled the earliest 1905 Ty Cobb rookie photo. Places like baseball-refence.com makes this type of research easy for all baseball fans.

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11-05-2004, 02:55 PM
Posted By: <b>runscott</b><p>I would have predicted about $30 each for the non-HOF player photos, $70-90 for the Cuban players. The McGinnity went for over $500!<br /><br />These are all 3" x 4" photos, mounted to scrap-book paper, taken by an amateur photographer. Amazing.

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11-05-2004, 03:01 PM
Posted By: <b>hankron</b><p>I will end my posting on the subject by saying the Cobb photo in question is fine, with a great image and the stamp of a well known photographer. The fact that it belonged to a Tigers' teammate only makes it neater. So it should not be construed that I'm saying anything bad about the photo itself.

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11-05-2004, 03:05 PM
Posted By: <b>runscott</b><p>You can say anything you want - you won't go to hell or anything. <br /><br />Disclaimers are for lawyers and millionaires.