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10-18-2004, 09:04 AM
Posted By: <b>david</b><p>wow, ebay now has a paper stock cutout category under sports memorabilia! does this mean that we can now report all those AAA paper scrapps to ebay and they will remove them from the section that is for actual baseball cards

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10-18-2004, 09:26 AM
Posted By: <b>runscott</b><p>they also broke down the vintage categories into smaller year increments - I got burned on this using Turbolister last week.

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10-18-2004, 09:37 AM
Posted By: <b>ramram</b><p>He isn't using that category yet and I don't think he will. I don't think eBay requires you to list in a certain category either (or won't monitor it). He probably will use the argument that his cutouts are graded so he needs to put them in the graded cards category. We'll see if he has an ounce of ethics soon, if he starts listing in the category that was made just for him, but don't hold your breath.<br /><br />

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10-18-2004, 10:06 AM
Posted By: <b>petecld</b><p>This may just do the trick. I know they will change the catagory on their own if they see fit to do so. The only thing this will force him to do is list them in both catagories. Typical, eBay collects fees twice on him - we still have to see his crap for auction.<br /><br />As for breaking down the non-graded section: As usual, one step forward, two steps back.

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10-18-2004, 10:37 AM
Posted By: <b>Gary B.</b><p>is that people buy this crap regularly thinking it's worth something. It also astounds me the prices he lists this stuff at, especially the buy it now prices. You really have to be phenomenonally ignorant to pay those prices for a piece of paper cut out of a magazine or newspaper. I don't think they're COMPLETELY worthless, in fact every once in a while I come across that looks so nice that I would actually consider spending up to $1.00 on it. <br /><br />I don't think this new category will make one iota of difference. Roy depends on people looking for actual cards to see these and think they have anything to do with actual cards and buy them. He would lose a LOT of business if he depended on people to just look in a paper cutout section.<br /><br />I saw someone at a mall recently with a stand selling some baseball cards (even some pre-war cards at absolutely ridiculous prices) and some of these AAA paper cutouts. He tried pitching them to me that they came from this guy in Hawaii, how rare they were, etc., etc. Once I told him that I knew who the person was, that he grades them himself, that they're essentially worthless and that this person is reviled among true collectors of actual baseball cards, he kind of just fell silent. He didn't try to defend what he knew was worthless, and I don't think he appreciated someone with any real knowledge about the worth of the crap he was selling being on to him since he was selling them at genuine Roy Huff ebay prices.<br /><br />Sadly, I fear he will be clogging up the categories we all look at for a very long time as he's not doing anything technically illegal and I guess there are enough of a continuous supply of saps out there who think they are buying something of value. Good luck when they try to find their item in a price guide (unless Roy creates one himself - wouldn't put it past him) or try to sell it to a card shop. What a major pain in the a** these things are...

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10-18-2004, 11:03 AM
Posted By: <b>Aaron</b><p>Wow! Incredible, E-Bay actually listened to its users and did the right thing! Amazing! <br /><br />I'd love to see people reward E-Bay's effort by relentlessly reporting mis-catagorized cut-outs wherever and whenever they appear. <br /><br />Amazing.

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10-18-2004, 11:50 AM
Posted By: <b>warshawlaw</b><p>to my boxing card collecting colleagues because this crap has now found its way onto the graded boxing card listings. Unfortunately, some folks had already been burned. <br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1098121843.JPG">