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10-13-2004, 08:05 AM
Posted By: <b>runscott</b><p>Does anyone know the history of these? Were they issued in the glassine envelopes within a cig pack? ...or mail-aways?<br /><br />They seem to almost always be mis-cut or have small bits of one or more corners missing. I have three along with the envelopes they were supposedly issued with. One envelope matches Mr. Lemke's catalog description, but another has no design and only one line of print "Factory No. 30,2nd Dist.,N.Y.". The other has no design, but has two print lines: "S. ANARCYROS,N.Y." and "Factory No. 7,3rd Dist.,N.Y."

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10-13-2004, 09:47 AM
Posted By: <b>Todd Schultz</b><p>but monitored an auction or two, and it seems they came in glassine envelopes: <br /><br /><a href="http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=31719&item=5126868048&rd=1" target=_new>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=31719&item=5126868048&rd=1</a>

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10-13-2004, 10:15 AM
Posted By: <b>Scott Forrest</b><p>I am also interested in whether or not they came in the "plain" envelopes described in my previous post, and if the images shown in the ebay auction you referenced, are accurate for these stamps.

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10-13-2004, 10:07 PM
Posted By: <b>Scott Forrest</b><p>but I'm sure someone on this board has some thoughts that can help out. Thanks in advance.

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10-15-2004, 01:07 AM
Posted By: <b>Patrick McMenemy</b><p>Hi Scott:<br /><br />The correct envelope that the Helmar Stamps came in are the ones with the slogan: "Philately The Popular European Rage." Frequently, EBAY sellers attempt to sell a generic Helmar glassine envelope which is bogus. See page 97 in Lew Lipset's Volume 3 for a picture which matches the image seen in the first link posted. I happen to have 4 Helmars, and a sample envelope as well. Here's scans of three of the stamps.<br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1097823540.JPG"> <br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1097823624.JPG"> <br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1097823729.JPG"> <br /><br />Patrick

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10-15-2004, 06:03 AM
Posted By: <b>runscott</b><p>Any idea what the generic Helmar glassine envelopes contaied?<br />