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10-01-2008, 01:26 PM

Posted By: Kevin O'GaraI am new to the forum... Here are some photos of my collection...enjoy! If anyone has any information about the lemonade set I posted earlier, please write. Thanks, Kevin<a href="http://s145.photobucket.com/albums/r233/kyle9190/?action=view&current=P1010010.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r233/kyle9190/P1010010.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a> <a href="http://s145.photobucket.com/albums/r233/kyle9190/?action=view&current=P1010011.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r233/kyle9190/P1010011.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a> <a href="http://s145.photobucket.com/albums/r233/kyle9190/?action=view&current=P1010012.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r233/kyle9190/P1010012.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a> <a href="http://s145.photobucket.com/albums/r233/kyle9190/?action=view&current=P1010013.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r233/kyle9190/P1010013.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a> <a href="http://s145.photobucket.com/albums/r233/kyle9190/?action=view&current=P1010014.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r233/kyle9190/P1010014.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a> <a href="http://s145.photobucket.com/albums/r233/kyle9190/?action=view&current=P1010015.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r233/kyle9190/P1010015.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a> <a href="http://s145.photobucket.com/albums/r233/kyle9190/?action=view&current=P1010016.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r233/kyle9190/P1010016.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a> <a href="http://s145.photobucket.com/albums/r233/kyle9190/?action=view&current=P1010005-2.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r233/kyle9190/P1010005-2.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a> <a href="http://s145.photobucket.com/albums/r233/kyle9190/?action=view&current=P1010006.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r233/kyle9190/P1010006.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a> <a 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src="http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r233/kyle9190/P1010003-1.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a> <a href="http://s145.photobucket.com/albums/r233/kyle9190/?action=view&current=P1010002-2.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r233/kyle9190/P1010002-2.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a> <a href="http://s145.photobucket.com/albums/r233/kyle9190/?action=view&current=P1010001-1.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r233/kyle9190/P1010001-1.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a> <a href="http://s145.photobucket.com/albums/r233/kyle9190/?action=view&current=P1010005-1.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r233/kyle9190/P1010005-1.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a> <a href="http://s145.photobucket.com/albums/r233/kyle9190/?action=view&current=P1010002-1.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r233/kyle9190/P1010002-1.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a> <a href="http://s145.photobucket.com/albums/r233/kyle9190/?action=view&current=P1010001.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r233/kyle9190/P1010001.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a> <a href="http://s145.photobucket.com/albums/r233/kyle9190/?action=view&current=P1010002.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r233/kyle9190/P1010002.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a> <a href="http://s145.photobucket.com/albums/r233/kyle9190/?action=view&current=P1010003.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r233/kyle9190/P1010003.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a> <a href="http://s145.photobucket.com/albums/r233/kyle9190/?action=view&current=P1010004.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r233/kyle9190/P1010004.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a> <a href="http://s145.photobucket.com/albums/r233/kyle9190/?action=view&current=P1010005.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r233/kyle9190/P1010005.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a> Kevin O'Gara baseballrelics@yahoo.com

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10-01-2008, 01:43 PM

Posted By: Dan BrettaThanks for sharing Kevin. You've got a lot of nice stuff.

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10-01-2008, 01:49 PM

Posted By: ShawnAnd you just now found this site!!!? Wow, nice stuff.

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10-01-2008, 02:13 PM

Posted By: MarkWOW... Amazing stuff! If you ever decide to sell or trade that Duckweb Glove, please keep me in mind! Wonderful collection!

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10-01-2008, 02:23 PM

Posted By: Mike HWelcome, and thank you for posting. Very impressive collection. What can you tell us about the chalkware statues? They are very nice. You obviously focus on balls a bit. Do you have a holy grail you are after? Can you tell us a bit about your collecting history (i.e. how long, what you focus on, etc)?

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10-01-2008, 02:34 PM

Posted By: Brock G.You got the Willie Mays sun-glasses!!! I want those bad. Great collection Kevin. Love to see guys who collect stuff similiar to what I collect. Welcome aboard.

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10-01-2008, 05:07 PM

Posted By: Kevin O'Garato mike h , i have a six sided lemon peel ball that i got with 2, 1860 to 70's red barn painted bats out of new england a while ago. my main focus is the 19th century stuff. i started collecting around 20 years ago and the insanity never ends. the h style ball that i show i just bought on ebay about 2 weeks ago. it is a double sided h style, which the h stitching is on both sides of the ball. when i get time ill try to post other photos of items. love the sight and seeing all the different collecting styles and memorabilia. Kevin O'Gara baseballrelics@yahoo.com

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10-01-2008, 05:58 PM

Posted By: Fred YBeautiful stuff Kevin---and those comic books compliment my thread!

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10-01-2008, 07:20 PM

Posted By: Kevin O'Garafred thats why i took the photos of the comic books. thanks Kevin O'Gara baseballrelics@yahoo.com

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10-01-2008, 08:41 PM

Posted By: ClintKevin, you have some great stuff. I really like the variety of items, thanks for sharing. Clint

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10-01-2008, 09:05 PM

Posted By: HalGreat stuff!! Thanks for sharing. What is the 19th century item to the left of the "Atlantic" baseball that has color illustrations of 9 players? It is gorgeous and reminds me of N284 and WG1.

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10-01-2008, 09:25 PM

Posted By: Max WederHi Kevin Great photos. I just got back from work and was about to post the pics of your lemonade set, but see you've done it already. Very cool Max

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10-01-2008, 11:39 PM

Posted By: Jim DanielAbsolutely incredible Kevin. That duck makes number nine - seven on the site, one in the Smithsonian book and now yours. It's always fun to find another tough glove pop up. Great stuff. Thanks for sharing. Jim <a href="http://www.baseballglovecollector.com/gallery/index.php?album=novelty-gloves" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.baseballglovecollector.com/gallery/index.php?album=novelty-gloves</a>

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10-02-2008, 08:50 AM

Posted By: Marty OgelvieTruly Great Stuff Kevin,  martyOgelvie

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10-02-2008, 09:45 AM

Posted By: leonYou are just an ole addict like the rest of us!!! Great stuff and thanks for posting. Unlike the card side of this board just about everyone over here is very friendly <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>. If I can ever help you with board related issues don't hesitate to let me know. Good luck in the hunt.....regards

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10-02-2008, 10:00 AM

Posted By: Jimmygreat stuff, if you ever have questions, please let us know Jimmy

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10-02-2008, 10:04 AM

Posted By: MarkJim: I love your "Novelty Gloves web page (which you linked above...) I was wondering if you could describe what specifically qualifies as a "Fielders Mitt". How is a fielder's mitt different than a baseman's mitt (or is it just the same thing - different terminology?) Can you take a look at the photos attached below, and tell me whether this one qualifies as a Fielders Mitt? Thanks! <img src="http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff178/perezfan/Ebay-Aug089.jpg"> <img src="http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff178/perezfan/Ebay-Aug091.jpg">

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10-02-2008, 10:51 AM

Posted By: KeithImpressive Collection - welcome to the forum

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10-02-2008, 01:06 PM

Posted By: williamMark - your glove is a first baseman's mitt. Generally speaking, based on what I've handled, a fielder's mitt has many of the same characteristics as any other top of the line fielder's glove. Rolled piping, thicker leather, etc. I've also never seen one with anything other than a sewn full web. The shorter finger stalls and thinner padding, and the ability to close the hand similar to a glove, are also giveaways. This last part is hard to verbalize, but, whereas you put a baseman's mitt ON your hand, you put your hand IN a fielder's mitt. Early first base mitt's tend to have the user's hand on the back of the glove will all the substance on the palm side. The hand is more centrally located in a fielder's mitt.

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10-02-2008, 02:01 PM

Posted By: MarkThanks for the thorough explanation, William. On a scale of 1 - 10, how scarce would you say that Fielders Mitts are? I would assume pretty rare, given the fact that only a handfull are pictured. It looks like there is actually a Fielders Mitt on JD's site that has a lace web. Check out the chocolate brown example from the Jack Marden collection. One also appears to have a 1" web, with the rest having full webs.

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10-02-2008, 02:47 PM

Posted By: williamWow. I guess I can add lace and one inchers to the list of webs. Though I have seen some laced webs that looked like the owner cut the full web and added laces later. That's not to say that's what is shown on Jim's site, more of a general observation, but I've definitely seen some interesting customization. Jim's photo gallery is likely to represent a good portion of the known examples. I don't know how rare they are, but if a run of the mill full web is a 1 and a duck web is a 10, you'd have to have a fielder's mitt up there between a 7-9. Hard to say. They are/were considered quite rare but they do show up on ebay a few times a year. I'm not sure how much interest they garner given the fact that they look so much like first baseman's mitts, which have not had as broad a spectrum of collector interest.

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10-02-2008, 02:51 PM

Posted By: Kevin O'Gara to the left of the atlantic ball is a childs pencil box. i think ive seen 3 other variations. thanks for everyones responses to the pics. hope to post more soon. Kevin O'Gara baseballrelics@yahoo.com

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10-02-2008, 02:52 PM

Posted By: Greg ThebergeGreat stuff Kevin. Thanks for posting and welcome to the site. greg

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10-02-2008, 09:44 PM

Posted By: Jim DanielWilliam, I think you nailed it. Although the visible differences between fielders mitts and basemitts are subtle, there's no question about it when you put one on your hand. Mark, that's a basemitt. I have a couple like that. A fielders mitt, like William said, has padding in front of and behind your hand. Your hand sort of fits in the middle. If you put it on, curled your fingertips downward, you would be able to pull the lining downward, almost out toward the opening at least on the two that I have. The two fielders mitt ads I have show a very flat top as well. There are two in the Novelty section that I'm on the fence with. I put my hand in the dark one and it felt like a basemitt. It didn't have the type of lining we are referring to. The flat top was enough to discuss the possibility of it being a fielders mitt though. I would lean toward the side that a fielders mitt was early and would more than likely have a sewn web than a grommet web. William is right in that many sewn webs were cut out or broken and replaced with lace. I think fielders mitts are rarer than duck webs but I think duck webs are more desirable. I believe more people would rather have a duck web because they look so different and it's the ultimate in what I call novelty gloves. I call them that because they were innovative and unique and were cool ideas at first but didn't stick for whatever reason, and thus, are very rare. JD <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1223004896.JPG">

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10-03-2008, 11:21 AM

Posted By: MarkThanks for the great explanations, William and JD! I did not realize Fielders Mitts were even rarer than Duck Webs. That said... when was the last time anyone saw either type come up on Ebay? What was the final price (if you can recall?) I search, but never (ever) see them. And the Catalogue Auctions rarely have gloves like this either. Oregon Trail and Mastro-West used to have them, but that was back when Mastro emphasized far more memorabilia than cards. The other "Novelty Glove" I find attractive and fascinating is the Tornado Palm Glove. Was this swirl-patterned stitching done, just to get a better grip on the ball? How many of these are still around? I think I saw one in the Smithsonian Baseball Book by Wong, but that may be the same one as pictured on JD's site. Thanks again for the great info!