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01-03-2008, 10:43 AM
Posted By: <b>Steve</b><p>A Gehrig cut signature scan I've been sent. Looks like a photocopy to me. Little hope this is real?<br /><br />I'm fairly certain bleed through text, on the back reads "LEP - 316 -(?) CM". Significant?<br /><br />I've done no interview as to the provinence, yet. Thanks for any help in advance.<br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1199298961.JPG">

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01-03-2008, 11:02 AM
Posted By: <b>David Atkatz</b><p>It's a forgery, and a rather poor one at that.

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01-03-2008, 11:44 AM
Posted By: <b>Mark Steinberg</b><p>I agree with David... a bad forgery. The type that always appears in Coach's Corner Auctions. <br /><br />I think the numbers scrawled on the reverse might even be a Frangipani authorization code... looks very similar.

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01-03-2008, 11:50 AM
Posted By: <b>David Atkatz</b><p>Could that "CM" be Christopher Morales?<br />(He's a Frangipani clone.)

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01-03-2008, 02:20 PM
Posted By: <b>Mark Steinberg</b><p>David... that's a great catch. <br /><br />Donald Frangiapani had a similar coding system which he would write on the back of autograph cuts, pictures, etc. He would even write his "code" directly onto autographed baseballs (right by the stitches). <br /><br />I never understood who would want this, as it really marred/tainted the piece to have this in plain view (aside from the fact that these fakes were already tainted...)<br /><br />I bet the CM does indeed stand for Christopher Morales. He "authenticates" most of the Coach's Corner stuff, and this one has all the earmarks of one of a typical C.C. offering. <br /><br />Thankfully, I have never possessed anything from this authenticator so I don't know if his codes begin with CM. It would certainly seem to be a logical assumption and explanation.

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01-04-2008, 07:59 AM
Posted By: <b>Richard Simon</b><p>YUCK!!!<br />And I concur with the prior posts that the CM probably stands for Christopher Morales.<br />--<br><br>I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent.<br />Unknown author <br />--<br />We made a promise. We swore we'd always remember.<br />No retreat baby, no surrender.<br />The Boss

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01-04-2008, 04:58 PM
Posted By: <b>Steve Murray</b><p>This is probably a collector's item in it's own right. <img src="/images/sad.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br /><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1199408247.JPG">

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01-04-2008, 05:09 PM
Posted By: <b>David Atkatz</b><p>There are millions of Frangipani CoAs.<br /><br />Now, if you had a Frangipani document stating that the signature in question was <i>not</i> authentic...

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01-04-2008, 08:28 PM
Posted By: <b>Mark Steinberg</b><p>David... You beat me to it... I was thinking the exact same thing. I wonder if anyone can actually produce a Frangipani Letter, denying authenticity? I would actually LOVE to see one. <br /><br />That might rival the Wagner and Plank as "hobby rarities".

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01-05-2008, 10:59 AM
Posted By: <b>Jon Canfield</b><p>From my other post but here is an authenticated Gehrig for comparison:<br /><br /><a href="http://s82.photobucket.com/albums/j263/jon_canfield/?action=view&current=DSCN1518.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j263/jon_canfield/DSCN1518.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

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01-08-2008, 10:58 AM
Posted By: <b>Steve</b><p>I'm not an autograph collecter, but this one smelled bad. Seller was adamant about authenticity and I'm grateful to confirm my suspicions. Thanks for the eval!