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09-29-2007, 01:28 PM

Posted By: Mike HIs there any one collector who has what is considered the finest baseball pennant collection in the hobby? They don't get much press, but there must be an exceptional collection out there.

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09-29-2007, 05:16 PM

Posted By: jimsHi Mike, I love large pennants and have about a dozen fairly old ones. But pennants are made to display and the wall space required to do that is their disadvantage. I do have probably one of the largest collections around of the small 1936-37 BF3 pennants, currently about 425 different ones. These I display in glass enclosed cases. I will try to post some pictures during the coming week.

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09-29-2007, 06:36 PM

Posted By: Mike HThank you Jim. I would love to see the large pennants, but the smalls are great as well. Anyone else have pre-war pennants to post?

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10-20-2007, 03:11 AM

Posted By: Mark SteinbergMike: I just joined tonight, and this is my first post. I think I might have the best vintage baseball pennant collection in the world... top 3 anyway. The collection spans from turn of the century to the late '60s. It stops at the point manufacturers felt the need to cheapen / mass-produce the artwork, make them stiff instead of soft, and include the MLB Logo. Until I can figure out how to display them on the floors or ceiling however, I have had to slow it down a bit. I had hoped to create some type of memorabilia museum someday, but am doubtful that enough people would actually appreciate.

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10-20-2007, 05:34 AM

Posted By: Mike HMark, We need to see a few broad photos of your collection...PLEEEEEEASE.

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10-20-2007, 05:37 AM

Posted By: Greg ThebergeMark, Welcome aboard! Like Mike, I would also love to see some of your pennants as well. Anything from the Sox before 1920? Greg

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10-20-2007, 10:24 AM

Posted By: Mark SteinbergNo White Sox prior to 1920, but I do have an amazing 1919 Reds Champions Pennant (kind of White Sox-Related, if you know what I mean!) I do have a very unusual White Sox Pennant from the late 20s or early 30s, and think I have most Chisox variations from the 1940s - on... Just need to learn how to post pics here (and find a way to carve out more free-time for this great site!)

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10-20-2007, 11:03 AM

Posted By: Greg ThebergeMark, Sorry for just saying Sox. I meant the Red ones, not the white ones <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> My bad. Your Reds pennant sounds great and would love to see it. Most of the guys on here have seen my Red Sox pennants but if you want to take a look, they're in this earlier thread <a href="http://www.network54.com/Forum/567138/thread/1191300147/last-1192242420/Any+suggestions" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://www.network54.com/Forum/567138/thread/1191300147/last-1192242420/Any+suggestions</a> Welcome and please post some of your stuff. Would love to see it. Greg

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10-20-2007, 12:01 PM

Posted By: Mark SteinbergThanks Greg... I should have read more carefully. I do actually have a killer oversized Red Sox Pennant from the teens. Different than all of those pictured in the previous thread, too. If someone can tell me how to get pictures on this #### thing, I would be happy to post a few. Thanks again!

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10-20-2007, 12:23 PM

Posted By: KeithMark, what I do to put photos on here is to upload my photos onto my album at www.photobucket.com, then I copy and paste the html address of the photo directly into the message.

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10-20-2007, 12:38 PM

Posted By: Max WederI can't seem to find any pennants. However, I do have a lovely coffee table to display <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> <img src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/35/89771844_cf9e47bc92.jpg">

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10-20-2007, 12:57 PM

Posted By: Greg ThebergeKeith is right, go to photobucket. Easiest way: Hit the reply button like you were responding to this post Scroll to bottom See Image Services click on photobucket.com Register for photobucket Register now Once registered.. To upload: Go into the reply again go back and Hit photobucket.com Click on the Browse button in the third box down Find your file on your computer hit upload image once you see your image, click on it to open it, then right click on the url and copy the url go to the message box where you would reply to a post right click paste the url you're in I think I did that right. good luck

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10-20-2007, 04:55 PM

Posted By: Mark SteinbergThanks so much Keith and Greg, for explaining! When I have more time (tonight or tomorrow), I'll give it a try. Anyone else have any vintage pennants they would like to show off here?

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10-20-2007, 08:11 PM

Posted By: E, Danielbut I love this particular one. Daniel <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1192846228.JPG"> <img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/tmp/1192846241.JPG">

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10-21-2007, 02:44 AM

Posted By: Mar SteinbergMy first attempt at posting a picture... Here's probably my finest Red Sox Pennant. Huge oversized version from the teens (NRMT!!) Really vibrant colors when you see it live... sorry for the lousy pic! <img src="http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff178/perezfan/Teens001.jpg">

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10-21-2007, 02:54 AM

Posted By: Mar SteinbergMany thanks again to Greg and Keith for helping me figure out the picture posting procedure! Here is a really fun Red Sox Pennant from the early '50s. For some reason, you NEVER see this variation. I have another that is similar... maybe better, but it is buried for now. They must have really under-produced this one at the time. I just don't understand why these never turn up. I would think that Sox fans would have loved this "Batting Sock" logo... <img src="http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff178/perezfan/Teens002.jpg">

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10-21-2007, 03:03 AM

Posted By: Mar SteinbergMy best recent pick-up... a 1913 World Series Pennant. The artwork on this one is almost hypnotizing, with Ben Franklin and the Giant in a friendly confrontation. Probably made for Giants fans, as their mascot seems to be the primary focus. Too bad that Philly got the better of them in this one! <img src="http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff178/perezfan/Teens004.jpg">

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10-21-2007, 03:11 AM

Posted By: Mar SteinbergHere is one of my all-time favorites. Can you imagine any player today being so popular that they name the entire team after him? Does anyone out there think the "Mannys" can overcome their deficit to beat the "Naps" this weekend? Who will ultimately face the "Hollidays" in this year's World Series? <img src="http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff178/perezfan/Teens003.jpg">

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10-21-2007, 03:45 AM

Posted By: Mike HStunning, is the only word that comes to mind Greg. Those pieces drip with nostalgia. Thank you very much for posting. I think I speak for all of us when I say...keep em coming!!!

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10-21-2007, 07:12 AM

Posted By: Greg ThebergeAll I can say is Wow! That Sox pennant is making me drool, but that Giants pennant is just simply amazing. Thanks for posting Mark and making me start the day so green with envy <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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10-21-2007, 07:35 AM

Posted By: Bert WrightCongratulations on an awesome collection! Show us more if you can.

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10-21-2007, 07:52 AM

Posted By: KeithAwesomes pennants Mark. The oversized RedSox pennants is stunning. Here are a few from my collection and they are extremely meager compared to yours. They are from my Eagles collection. 40's Eagles pennant <img src="http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/kjjavic/EaglesPennant3.jpg"> 40's Eagles pennant <img src="http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/kjjavic/EaglesPennant1.jpg"> 50's Eagles pennant <img src="http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/kjjavic/EaglesPennant2.jpg"> 60's Eagles pennant <img src="http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/kjjavic/EaglesPennant4.jpg"> 60's Eagles pennant <img src="http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n193/kjjavic/EaglesPennant5.jpg">

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10-21-2007, 08:27 AM

Posted By: Greg ThebergeThis thread reminds me of why I don't primarily collect cards in little plastic tombs <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> I've scrolled down this thread three of four times already and these things are all just beautiful. You can just imagine seeing these things sold at the ballpark and being waved on little canes. Love that pennant of yours too, Daniel. While I don't know squat about football pennants, it's cool to see a Philly collection spanning over the years. Thanks for posting. Max, you have fantastic taste in furniture. <img src="http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z192/HiNeighbor_2007/splash1.jpg"> Hope these guys are cheering from above for tonight's game <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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10-21-2007, 06:42 PM

Posted By: Mark SteinbergGreg: Almost looks like those pennants were superimposed into the picture. My brain just can't fathom that these were once commonplace! For the record, I agree about the little tombs assessment... there is something very wrong with vintage treasures demonstrating Bar Codes. Those are two paths that just should not cross!

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10-21-2007, 09:02 PM

Posted By: jims<img src="http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i164/matty39/donovan.jpg">

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10-21-2007, 09:11 PM

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10-21-2007, 09:14 PM

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10-21-2007, 09:18 PM

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10-21-2007, 09:24 PM

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10-21-2007, 09:42 PM

Posted By: ClintJim, not one but three of those huge pennants. You've gotta be kidding me. I like that Bubbles Hargrave bat too. The last couple days around here we've definatley seen some museum quality pieces. Thanks for sharing everybody. Clint

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10-21-2007, 09:49 PM

Posted By: Shawn ChambersJim, Your collection is amazing. The BF2s look great. I don't know much about pennants, but was wondering if the large player pennants were also made by Ferguson? Do they have an ACC # (i.e. BF?)? Thanks for sharing! Shawn

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10-21-2007, 10:11 PM

Posted By: ClintThis is the only prewar pennant I have. <img src="http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z186/ksfarmboy/bwe.jpg">

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10-22-2007, 08:38 AM

Posted By: Greg Thebergejims, Awesome collection. I agree that there has definitely been a lot of quality stuff being shown on here over the past few days which is great to see.

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10-22-2007, 10:34 AM

Posted By: Mark SteinbergSince Pennants are my personal favorites and my passion, I just wanted to keep this thread alive... here's another favorite! <img src="http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff178/perezfan/G-C001.jpg">

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10-22-2007, 10:36 AM

Posted By: Dan BrettaStunning! I've never seen that one before....what's the story Mark? Where'd you pick it up? How did you come to pick pennants as your focus? When did you start collecting?

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10-22-2007, 10:40 AM

Posted By: Max WederBe careful Clint, the BF2's are pretty close to being baseball cards <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> <img src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/48/118278996_78e97733b6.jpg"> Mark, that is an unbelievable Connie Mack pennant. Wow. Max

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10-22-2007, 10:46 AM

Posted By: Rob DewolfMark, I believe you and I have butted heads more than a few times on some Indians pennants on eBay. Great stuff, and thanks for sharing. I think the last time I saw an example of the Naps/Lajoie pennant offered was by Leland's about 10-12 years ago. At the time I it was way out of my price range. I wish now I had taken out a loan. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> Rob

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10-22-2007, 10:49 AM

Posted By: JoannMy stars. That's all I have to say about this whole thread, and each and every picture in it. Thanks so much all that have posted photos. What a treat. And I don't know jack about pennants! J

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10-22-2007, 11:01 AM

Posted By: Rob DewolfI posted this recently in another thread. One of my favorite Indians items. From 1916: <img src="http://www.freewebs.com/indianfever/-%20New%20Folder/1916pennant.jpg"> I always thought this depicted Earl Averill: <img src="http://www.freewebs.com/indianfever/-%20New%20Folder/3qtrgreenaverill.jpg"> I was thrilled when I picked up the first version of this. And then to find another? <img src="http://www.freewebs.com/indianfever/-%20New%20Folder/paigepennantredwhite.jpg"> <img src="http://www.freewebs.com/indianfever/-%20New%20Folder/paigemulticolorpen.jpg"> I'm not holding my breath on an Eric Wedge/2007 Indians version being produced: <img src="http://www.freewebs.com/indianfever/-%20New%20Folder/maroonchampsboudreaupen.jpg">

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10-22-2007, 11:11 AM

Posted By: jimsShawn, The prize pennants were a premium offered by Ferguson Bakery, I do not believe they are listed in the ACC, but can be found in the Standard Catalog.

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10-22-2007, 11:14 AM

Posted By: Dan BrettaThis is one of the few pennants I have left...I believe it is for the Sioux City Packers of the Western League circa 1910. <img src="http://i22.photobucket.com/albums/b331/nudan92/sc004.jpg">

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10-22-2007, 01:23 PM

Posted By: Mark SteinbergHey Rob... That is amazing with the 2 Satchel Paige's. All your pieces are just beautiful. Please email me at imstroft@yahoo.com, just in case you are toying with the idea of selling/trading one of the Paige Pennants. I have LOTS of unique Cleveland stuff for potential trade. While not Cleveland, below is a picture of my BIGGEST Pennant. I pictured it next to a regular-sized pennant, just to demonstrate the size... it's a monster! <img src="http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff178/perezfan/G-C002.jpg">

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10-22-2007, 01:34 PM

Posted By: Mark SteinbergDan: I was just a kid in the late '60s when the pennant bug bit me. My Dad would typically buy me a Pennant for $1.00 each time we went to a Reds game at Crosley Field. Then, in 1969, something terrible happened. The artistry disappeared, the pennants became stiff instead of soft, and the "powers that be" had to include the mass-produced MLB Logo on everything. It made me realize that pride of workmanship was something to be appreciated, and I have been building the vintage collection ever since. Safe to say, it has become an obsession over the years. I would love to do a Coffee-table Book some day, and really feel (like many others) that memorabilia is way undervalued, compared to the more common cards. I am so glad that many people on this site seem to love and appreciate the same things as me. Hope more people can continue to share their great pennants as well... thanks!!

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10-22-2007, 02:06 PM

Posted By: Mike HThat pennant is so beautiful I think it could induce a seizure! Holy Cow! Where would something like that have been sold?

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10-22-2007, 03:42 PM

Posted By: Greg ThebergeMark, Your stuff just keeps getting better and better. Thanks so much for posting. Those pennants are just absolutely gorgeous. You guys have all seen these before, but what the heck, this is such an incredible thread I thought they would be good to have on here too. <img src="http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z192/HiNeighbor_2007/1915.jpg"> <img src="http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z192/HiNeighbor_2007/1916FergusonDutchLeonard.jpg"> <img src="http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z192/HiNeighbor_2007/1916FergusonJoeWoodWhite.jpg"> <img src="http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z192/HiNeighbor_2007/1912-1.jpg"> <img src="http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z192/HiNeighbor_2007/1918RedSoxWorldsChampions.jpg">

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10-22-2007, 04:04 PM

Posted By: Greg ThebergeMark, I thought that Boston pennant of yours looked familiar. It's actually pictured in a small BoSox memorabilia book Called Boston Red Sox Memories and Memorabilia of New England's Team by Chadwick and Spindel. It's a cute little book, but not one that goes into a lot of depth. In fact, they incorrectly label that pennant of yours from the 40s which it is obviously wrong. They also show the common red WS Champions pennant and the white 1915 Red Sox pennant as well as another 1912 "Red Sox American League Champions" pennant similar to mine, but with a batter, not a pitcher. Keep those pennants coming. Great stuff

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10-22-2007, 05:56 PM

Posted By: Rob DewolfOK, it's about a half-hour until the first pitch of Game 7 and I'm looking for any good karma I can get for the Tribe. Hence: <img src="http://www.freewebs.com/indianfever/-%20New%20Folder/indiansversusbraves.jpg"> <img src="http://www.freewebs.com/indianfever/-%20New%20Folder/1948worldseriesredplaintoughpennant.jpg"> <img src="http://www.freewebs.com/indianfever/-%20New%20Folder/48worldseriesheaddressblueyellowpen.jpg"> <img src="http://www.freewebs.com/indianfever/-%20New%20Folder/worldchampionslouboudreaupennant.jpg"> <img src="http://www.freewebs.com/indianfever/-%20New%20Folder/alchampsof48redwhite.jpg"> <img src="http://www.freewebs.com/indianfever/-%20New%20Folder/alchampsbanneronleft.jpg"> <img src="http://www.freewebs.com/indianfever/-%20New%20Folder/greenworldchamps.jpg"> <img src="http://www.freewebs.com/indianfever/-%20New%20Folder/1948worldserieshalperpennant.jpg">

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10-22-2007, 06:01 PM

Posted By: andyI hate to bring down the quality of this post because those are some amazing pieces but these have been in the garage forever and I'm wondering about the approximate year of issue. I don't have a clue about them. Also, are they pretty common ones? They are all full size. Thanks, <img src="http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z228/andypcl/pennant1.jpg"> <img src="http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z228/andypcl/pennant3-1.jpg">

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10-22-2007, 07:41 PM

Posted By: jims<img src="http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i164/matty39/threecravats3-1.jpg">

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10-22-2007, 07:52 PM

Posted By: Greg ThebergeRob, it's the bottom of the 4th. I need some karma for the Sox. It's not a pennant (ran out of those), but I'm pulling out the big guns <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> <img src="http://i189.photobucket.com/albums/z192/HiNeighbor_2007/root1.jpg"> Edited at midnight to say <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14> Rob, those Indians are a great team and should be very proud of what they did this year

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10-23-2007, 04:43 PM

Posted By: Mike HAndy, Those are very nice pennants. I would date them to the late 40s early 50s. The condition looks superior and they are all desireable. Thanks for posting, and never ever question your collection. We want to see it all. Anytime you can add a story regarding how you found an item it is a big plus.

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10-23-2007, 07:28 PM

Posted By: Mark SteinbergAndy: Those are terrific. Thanks for sharing... I agree that Mike is right on with the time frame- late 40s/early 50s. That NY Giants pennant is likely the rarest of the bunch, and is fairly seldom-seen. I have been chasing that one for a while. If you'd consider a sale or trade for that one, please just let me know... thanks!

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10-23-2007, 08:33 PM

Posted By: andyThanks for the feedback guys. Mark, yes, a trade would be fine with me. When I get to my office I can forward a wantlist. One thing though...what do you make of the red across "New?" From a distance, I always thought it was part of the pennant but when looking close, i'm not sure. Here's a few more that were with them that even I didn't need help dating...I wish the tassles hadn't been cut on the Giant one. <img src="http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z228/andypcl/pennant4.jpg">

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10-24-2007, 05:14 AM

Posted By: Mike HAndy. I am interested in the 45 Tigers pennant if it is available for trade or sale.

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10-24-2007, 07:56 AM

Posted By: Rob DewolfHi Andy, Just wanted to add my two cents about your comment regarding the missing tassels: It's been my experience that on vintage pennants, missing tassels aren't that big of a deal as far as negatively impacting the value. I've bought and sold quite a few pennants and have never had anyone ask me (nor have I asked) for a price adjustment because all of some of the tassels were missing. Sure, it's always nice when all four are present, but other than for simple aesthetics and personal preference, I wouldn't worry too much. Again, just my opinion. I'd be curious to know what others think. Good luck with the pennants, Rob

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10-24-2007, 06:58 PM

Posted By: Mike HI will always pay more for tassels in tact. I just love the way they look and believe they are incomplete without.

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10-24-2007, 08:48 PM

Posted By: andyThanks for the feedback. Mike, I almost went after that Cubs pin tonight. That's a fair price. I'll keep you in mind on the 45' pennant. Here's the last of what I have... <img src="http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z228/andypcl/pennant8-1.jpg"> <img src="http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z228/andypcl/pennant7.jpg"> <img src="http://i194.photobucket.com/albums/z228/andypcl/pennant6.jpg">

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10-24-2007, 09:16 PM

Posted By: Dan BrettaGreat stuff Andy....what else you got just laying around in the garage? <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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10-24-2007, 09:46 PM

Posted By: andyHi Dan, There's a big box of 75' Kellogs 3D, about two hundred RC cans (Ralph Garr comes to mind), and an old Cheryl Ladd poster. In all honesty, there is quite a bit of misc memorabilia that somebody out there probably collects.

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10-24-2007, 09:53 PM

Posted By: Dan BrettaI've always had a soft spot for the Kellogg's 3D cards....they remind me of Saturday mornings in the 1970s....Watching cartoons and opening up a brand new box of cereal just so I could stick my grubby little hands down to the bottom of the box to pull out the prize.

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10-24-2007, 10:14 PM

Posted By: Mark SteinbergAgree.... the Kelloggs 3-D Cards were magical as a kid. I'll never forget pulling the Tony Perez Card in my first attempt. Andy... just shoot me your want-list when you have a chance. I think the color shading is indeed original to your NYG Pennant. Not a very precise printing job, as it does bleed into the felt quite a bit. I still think its acceptable for this pennant, and am confident we can work a trade to your liking... Thanks! Mark imstroft@yahoo.com

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10-24-2007, 10:25 PM

Posted By: andyHi Mark, I sent one to you today around 10am but from my office because my most current list is on that computer. It may not have gone through - I'll do it again in the A.M. -A

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10-25-2007, 05:21 AM

Posted By: Mike HThanks Andy. I've been after that pin a while and placed a pretty hefty bid. I was very surprised (pleased) that it didn't go much higher. Yes, let me know about the pennant please. I'm conflicted because I'm more Cubs than Tiger's fan, but collect them both.

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10-26-2007, 04:45 AM

Posted By: dennismark,what is the earliest pennant for the baseball hall of fame? and is there a pennant for the 1939 baseball centennial? & thanks for posting those great pennants (and everyone else too),guys those are great!

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10-26-2007, 05:10 PM

Posted By: Mark SteinbergDennis: That's a tough one.... In many many years of collecting pennants, I don't ever recall seeing a pennant specifically commemorating the 1939 HOF Ceremonies. The "oldest looking" ones I have seen are 3/4 sized pennants with very detailed and beautiful graphics portraying the HOF Museum. My guess is that these are from the early to mid '40s. Then they did all of those oversized versions with the numerous Players' head shots. I suppose these ones could be easily dated, based on who was represented (and the induction year of the most recent inductee portrayed). Sorry for giving you such a non-specific answer. If you have any dated ones, or what you think to be a very early variation, please post it!

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10-26-2007, 07:05 PM

Posted By: Mark SteinbergDennis: I was finally able to locate a pennant that commemorates the Baseball Centennial in 1939. Attached below is a picture. Please let me know if you are interested... due to scarcity, the price is $5,000. ps. Not very convincing, I know. This is the "pennant" equivalent to what a few Ebay scammers are doing with vintage Ad Pieces, Broadsides, Fan for a Fan items, etc. One guy in particular is especially guilty of this. A couple of those "repro" pennants have even made it into some of the major Catalog Auctions recently! <img src="http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff178/perezfan/Betsy.jpg">

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10-26-2007, 08:26 PM

Posted By: Max WederOk, this pennant thread has put $15 at risk for me, by inspiring me to bid on pennants of which I have no knowledge. This was auctioned as a first Expos pennant, pre-bleu, blanc, rouge and the stylized lettering. Is this right? <img src="http://i20.ebayimg.com/05/i/000/bd/f7/e845_1.JPG"> Yours from back in the summer of 1968....

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10-26-2007, 11:12 PM

Posted By: Mark SteinbergMax: That may the first Expos Pennant I have ever seen that is worthy of owning. Honestly, I've never seen that variation, or for that matter, ANY Expos Pennant besides that goofy tri-colored puffy "M" thing. What size is that one? It looks like it may be 3/4 size or even a mini pennant??? Thanks for posting that one!