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05-26-2007, 05:06 PM
Posted By: <b>Max Weder</b><p>I've been collecting baseball books for a while now, and I often see descriptions in booksellers' listings that the book has "no dust jacket--as issued".<br /><br />Sometimes, I have a copy of the same printing of the book with a dust jacket sitting on my shelf; others, I have not seen a dust jacket in over 20 years of collecting.<br /><br />Pre-1900 books mainly did not have dj's, but I have a couple of dj's from the 1890's.<br /><br />If anyone can assist in verifying any of these titles as having or not having a dust jacket, that would be great.<br /><br />For the post-1900, pre-1930, here is a small list<br /><br /><b>None assumed</b><br /><br />Spink, The National Game<br />Spalding, America's National Game<br />Braathen, Ty Cobb, Idol of the Baseball Fandom<br />Richter, History and Records of Baseball<br />Ellard, Baseball in Cincinnati<br />Anson, A Ballplayer's Career<br />Colliers, Book of Baseball<br /><br /><b>Never seen or heard, but should have a dj</b><br /><br />Douglas Science of Baseball<br />Berry Baseball Notes for Coaches and Players<br />Claudy, Battle of Baseball<br />Mathewson, Pitching in a Pinch (have seen later putnam dj)<br />Chance, Bride and Pennant<br />Mathewson, Won in the Ninth<br /><br /><b>Many say no dj, but I have or have seen a dj</b><br /><br />Evers, Touching Second<br />Evers, Baseball in the Big League<br />Cobb, Busting Em<br />Asenback, Humour Among the Minors (been told of dj, haven't seen it)<br />Rice, Base Ball Ballads (been told of dj, haven't seen it)<br />McGraw, How to Play Baseball<br />McGraw, My Thirty Years in Baseball<br /><br />Can anyone add more information?<br /><br /><br />

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05-26-2007, 05:12 PM
Posted By: <b>Dan Bretta</b><p>Max, I would guess that the Matty book "Won in the ninth" probably never did have a dust jacket...with the number of those books that were presentation copies signed by Matty you would think the owners of those books would keep the jacket if it had had one. I would put that book on the "None assumed" list just becuase of that.

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05-26-2007, 05:17 PM
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Max- your list appears correct, and the only known copy of Busting 'Em with a dj was Steve Cummings'. I was fortunate to be able to auction that one. And I've seen the Evers dj- it's identical to the printed cover. Likewise with Baseballogy, I've seen one with a dj and it's identical to the cover.

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05-26-2007, 05:36 PM
Posted By: <b>Max Weder</b><p>Dan<br /><br />I wouldn't assume that people would have kept the dj's to a presentation copy. Most of the Babe Ruth's Own Book of Baseball presentation copies don't have a dj, but the book in fact did come with a dj.<br /><br />A well-respected poster in this thread also assures me that Won in the Ninth has a dj.<br /><br />Barry<br /><br />I do have a copy of Baseballogy in dj. <br /><br />Another title to add, poetry genre, is Kirk's Right off the Bat, which does have a dj. In the 2 copies I've seen, the dj is miscut shorter than the book.<br /><br />Max

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05-26-2007, 05:48 PM
Posted By: <b>Jason Mishelow</b><p>Max I can't help with the list but I'm curious- can you list the pre-1900 Jackets that you know of- I've never run across any- that seemed to be the era of the paste down covers.

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05-26-2007, 06:35 PM
Posted By: <b>Max Weder</b><p>Jason<br /><br />The one I can think of off the top of my head with a dust jacket pre-1900 is Gilbert Patten's The Rockspur Nine .<br /><br />The paste-down covers went through 1925 or so, and almost every one I have seen has had a dust jacket. <br /><br />I think I've given you this link before, but if not <a href="http://flickr.com/photos/baseballart/sets/72057594052372441/" target="_new" rel="nofollow">http://flickr.com/photos/baseballart/sets/72057594052372441/</a> which is where I'm trying to scan copies of my books and their dj's. 139 scanned, many more to go<br /><br />Max

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05-26-2007, 07:02 PM
Posted By: <b>barrysloate</b><p>Dust jackets hardly existed in the 19th century. It's a 20th century creation.

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05-28-2007, 01:46 PM
Posted By: <b>Max Weder</b><p>Jason<br /><br />Here's the 1899 dust jacket from Patten's The Rockspur Nine, Street & Smith publisher<br /><br /><img src="http://farm1.static.flickr.com/254/516380098_5de9f5401c.jpg"><br /><br />Max

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05-28-2007, 02:55 PM
Posted By: <b>Clint</b><p>Max, I was looking through my catalogs and found a book titled With Mask and Mitt by A. T. Dudley, 1906. It had a dust jacket with it. Don't know if this was of interest or not. <br /><br />-Clint

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05-28-2007, 04:31 PM
Posted By: <b>Max Weder</b><p>Clint<br /><br />The A. T. Dudley books came with various dust jackets. At this point, I have only seen them on the "plain" later printings and not on the earlier printings which had embossed colors. They are fairly tough to find in dust jackets.<br /><br />Thanks,<br /><br />Max