Favorite set survey for Baseball Card HOF

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>There was a thread a few months back tht asked for favorite sets and I used that results to determine the 5 sets I would put into our Baseball Card HOF. Now Josh asked for favorite sets and there are radically different answers from what were posted in the first thread. <br /><br />After thinking about it a bit, I've decided that instead of just 5 sets, I am going to go with 2 sets from each of the 4 catagories; 19th century, tobacco, e-cards and misc.<br /><br />What I would like everyone to do is list their 2 favorite sets from each catagory. You are more than welcome to leave blanks, but please, no more than 2 sets per catagory no matter how strongly you feel that you need to list more. Also, be sure to rank them 1 and 2 as the scoring will be weight.<br /><br />Thanks in advance for your help.<br /><br />19th century:<br />1. Goodwin Champions<br />2. N42/43<br /><br />tobacco:<br />1. t205<br />2. t3<br /><br />e-cards:<br />1. e270 Colgan Red Borders<br />2. e107 Breisch-Williams<br /><br /><br />misc cards:<br />1. Diamond Stars<br />2. Delongs<br /><br />Jay<br><br>I like to sit outside, drink beer and yell at people. If I did this at home I would be arrested, so I go to baseball games and fit right in.

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Posted By: <b>Hal Lewis</b><p>19th:<br />1) Peck & Snyder Reds<br />2) N172 Old Judge<br /><br />Tobacco:<br />1) T205<br />2) T206<br /><br />E-Cards:<br />1) E107 Bresich Williams<br />2) E90-1<br /><br />Misc.:<br />1) 1933 Goudey<br />2) 1932 Am. Caramel

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Posted By: <b>john/z28jd</b><p>19th:<br />N172<br />N690<br /><br />tobacco:<br />T206<br />T3<br /><br />e cards:<br />e90<br />e121<br /><br />misc.<br />c46<br />m101-4

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Posted By: <b>The other One (Julie)</b><p>N162<br />N172<br /><br />T204<br />T206<br /><br />E145<br />E107<br /><br />Fan Craze<br />M101-4<br /><br />(I'm going to think about these for 24 hours, and maybe change one or two). It was a lot easier when we could just pile 6 sets from any time together--and now, I sort of feel compelled to include only sets I have cards from.)

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Posted By: <b>Ben</b><p><b>19th century:</b><br /><br />n162<br />n172<br /><br /><b>Tobacco:</b><br /><br />T204<br />T205<br /><br /><b>Caramel:</b><br /><br />e145<br />e107<br /><br /><b>Misc. </b><br /><br />D304 Brunners<br />Texas Tommy

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>Hal, the P&S is a card, not a set <img src="/images/wink.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />Jay<br><br>I like to sit outside, drink beer and yell at people. If I did this at home I would be arrested, so I go to baseball games and fit right in.

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Posted By: <b>Hal Lewis</b><p>A "one item" set is just a very very small set. <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14>

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Posted By: <b>Jay MIller</b><p>Jay--Hal is right. Peck and Snyders are a set. There are several team cards and the Creighton card. I will just vote for 19th century since I don't collect baseball beyond that:<br /><br />1- Old Judge<br />2- Kalamazoo Bats

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Posted By: <b>scott brockelman</b><p>19th century-mayo cut plug<br />t-cards-T204 ramly<br />e-cards-E107 Breisch Williams<br />misc-W600 sporting life cabinets & M116 sporting life cards

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Posted By: <b>The other One (Julie)</b><p>It would be so much easier if someone who doesn't like e-cards could leave them out and SUBSTITUE something else, and someone who loves deadballera stuff and NEVER buys 19th century stuff could SUBSTITUTE...I think we'd get a clearer picture of our collecting habits that way.<br /><br />And is it our collecting habits you want to chart, or the sets we would collect if money were no problem? That's another question.

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Posted By: <b>John</b><p>For what its worth here are mine...<br /><br />19th Century:<br /><br />N300 Mayo<br />N142 Duke Cabinets<br /><br />Tobacco Cards:<br /><br />T206 White Border<br />T212 Obaks<br /><br />Gum & Candy Cards:<br /><br />E107 Breisch Williams<br />E95 Philadelphia Caramel<br /><br />Misc Issues:<br /><br />S81 Silks<br />E254 Colgan's Chips<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Paul</b><p>This is hard, but here are my picks:<br /><br />19th Century: N162, N173<br />Tobacco: T3, T227 (if you gave me 3, I'd throw in T205)<br />E-cards: E-125, E-126<br />Misc.: 1938 Goudey, Fan Craze.

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Posted By: <b>Joe G.</b><p>19th Century<br /><br />1 - N172<br />2 - N300

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Posted By: <b>Andy Baran</b><p>19th Century:<br />- 1886 N167 Old Judge<br />- 1893 Just So Tobacco<br /><br />E-Cards:<br />- 1903 E107 Breisch Williams<br /><br />T-Cards:<br />- 1909 T204 Ramley<br /><br />Misc:<br />- 1904 Alleghany<br />- 1923-24 Tomas Guiterrez

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Posted By: <b>Judge Dred</b><p>19th century:<br />1. N172<br />2. N162<br /><br />tobacco:<br />1. T222<br />2. T204<br /><br />e-cards:<br />1. E90-1<br />2. E107<br /><br /><br />misc cards:<br />1. 1940 Play Ball<br />2. M101-x

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>...are the sets that you think are the best looking or most historically significant sets, regardless of whether you collect them or not.<br /><br />Thanks for all the responses, let's keep them coming in. Remember this everyone's Baseball Card HOF.<br /><br />Jay <br><br>I like to sit outside, drink beer and yell at people. If I did this at home I would be arrested, so I go to baseball games and fit right in.

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Posted By: <b>Jay Miller</b><p>Jay--those are the very reasons why we collect those sets

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Posted By: <b>Anonymous</b><p>N162, N173 T204, T3 E95, E90

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Posted By: <b>Julie</b><p>....

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Posted By: <b>Greg Ecklund</b><p>19th Century:<br />1. A&G World's Champions (N28)<br />2. 1895 Mayo's (N300)<br /><br />T-Cards:<br />1. T3 Turkey Red<br />2. T205<br /><br />E-cards:<br />1. E107 Breisch-Williams<br />2. E90-1 American Caramel<br /><br />Misc cards:<br />1. M101-4/M101-5<br />2. 1916 BF2 Pennants <br /><br />If BF2's don't count as cards for this survey, I would substitute 1940 Play Ball

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Posted By: <b>FatBoy</b><p>N" - k-bats, n173<br />T" - t3, t205 <br />"E" - e145, e125<br />Misc - m116, w600<br />

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Posted By: <b>Brian McQuen</b><p><br />Jay, favorite sets are as follows:<br /><br />19th Century - n43, n162 (Lorilliards Team cards a close third)<br />"e" cards - e107 and e145<br />"t" cards - t204 and t222 (with t209 a close third)<br />misc cards - m116 and w601 team postcards

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Posted By: <b>Mike McGrail</b><p>19th Century -<br />1 - N162<br />2 - N142<br /><br />T-cards -<br />1 - T206<br />2 - T3<br /><br />E-cards -<br />1 - E92<br />2 - E145<br /><br />Misc cards -<br />1 - R319<br />2 - E103<br /><br /><br />Mike

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Posted By: <b>Jay Miller</b><p>Mike--Is N142 supposed to be N172?

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Posted By: <b>The Other One (Julie)</b><p>............

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>nothing wrong with Dukes, Jay is just trying to pad the total for the OJ <img src="/images/wink.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />Jay<br><br>I like to sit outside, drink beer and yell at people. If I did this at home I would be arrested, so I go to baseball games and fit right in.

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Posted By: <b>Mike McGrail</b><p>Jay,<br /><br />N142 is correct. I rank the beautiful Duke Cabinets second only to the N162. The N172s are not even on my list, but this has to do with my personal aversion to cards that contain no color.<br /><br />Ciao for now,<br /><br />Mike

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Posted By: <b>Gilbert Maines</b><p>n162 especially the striking Anson<br />n172 those subtle colors <br /><br />t227 & t3 - not too subtle color<br /><br />e cards - a taste I have yet to acquire, although I own a dozen or so - must be the wrong ones.<br /><br />Batter ups & w517 - far from subtle colors.

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>come on people, this isn't going to work if unless everyone participates. The thread asking for your favorite sets got more responses than this thread, and the results of this will actually end up getting posted.<br /><br />I'd like to keep the Baseball Card HOF thing alive, but if there isn't enough particiaption, then what's the point? It's pretty sad when my own brother hasn't participated yet. <img src="/images/sad.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />Jay<br><br>I like to sit outside, drink beer and yell at people. If I did this at home I would be arrested, so I go to baseball games and fit right in.

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Posted By: <b>mzm55</b><p>19th century<br />- 1888 N162 <br />Goodwin Champions <br />-1887 N28<br />Allen & Ginter<br /><br /><br />tobacco<br />-1911 T3 Turkey Reds<br />-1909-11 T206<br /><br />e-cards<br />-1909 E95<br />-1914/15 E145<br />Cracker Jack<br /><br /><br />misc cards<br />-1910-11 M116<br />Sporting Life(blue)<br />-1941 R336 Play Ball<br />

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Posted By: <b>Sibling Support</b><p>Jay,<br /><br />Truly sad that Lee wont even post to this thread. But it's just not Lee, what about that new found lost cousin of yours Josh? Brothers and long lost cousins should stick together through thick and thin and support each others posts.<br /><br />Shame, shame, shame on Lee and Josh.

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Posted By: <b>Darren J Duet</b><p>19th Century<br /> 1863 Jordan & Co<br /> N172<br />E<br /> E107<br /> E145<br />T<br /> T206<br /> T202 <br />Mis<br /> M116<br /> R319

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Posted By: <b>Rhett</b><p>19th Century:<br />Newsboy Cabinets<br />N173 Old Judge Cabinets<br /><br />E Cards:<br />E270 Colgans Tin Tops<br />E105 Mello-Mints<br /><br />T-Cards:<br />T213-2 Coupon Cigarettes<br />Plowboy's<br /><br />Misc.:<br />Cameo Pepsin Pins (I know they are pins, but they are too cool to not be on the list)<br />L1 Leathers (second most bizarre set ever made, only exceeded by the 1912 Boston Garters)

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Posted By: <b>Chris</b><p>19th Century: 1. N162<br /> 2. N172<br /><br />T-cards 1. T205<br /> 2. T204<br /><br />E-Cards 1. E145<br /> 2. E107<br /><br />Misc 1. 1933 Goudey<br /> 2. M116

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Posted By: <b>brian p</b><p>19th century<br /><br />N162 Goodwin<br />N172 Old Judge<br /><br />T Cards<br /><br />T212 1911 Obak<br />T205<br /><br />E Cards<br /><br />E95 Philadelphia Caramel<br />E220 National Caramel<br /><br />Misc.<br /><br />Zeenuts (1911-1938)<br />W503<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>The Other One (Julie)</b><p>.......

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Posted By: <b>Brian H (misunderestimated)</b><p>19th Century :<br />I have to go with the cards I actually own (and can hope to own):<br />Old Judges <br />(always fascinating to see new ones -- they capture the primitive state of the game in the late 1880's with all sorts of wonderful posed images) Personal favorites include the cards with the nicknames ("Smiling Mickey", "$10,000 Kelly", "Long John" and "Little Nick" etc); favoriet images include: the Ewing with Mascott card and the Harry Wright "as God" portrait.<br />Mayos <br />In theory at least I could complete this set -- which also seems to capture the age )I particularly like the images of the late career Cap Anson and the still-youthful Kid Nichols)<br /><br />E-Cards<br />As will be appparent by my T-card choices I like cards that use the back and the front for more than just adds and tells us about the playerson the front. So I'll vote for the 14-15 Cracker Jacks which hve the added bonus of including Federal Leaguers and some interesting figures not normally included in sets (HOFERS Rickey, Mack and Comiskey come to mind). I also love that the Joe Jackson card actually calls him "Shoeless Joe Jackson".<br /><br />T-Cards :<br /><br />The T205 set may have been the first major set that included stats and biographical information about the players on the back. The portraits (and the Minor Leaguers) are also gorgeous and framed in the beautiful but fragile Gold Borders.<br /><br />The T202 set does the previous year's T205 set one better with action photos that seem to capture the very essence of the dead ball era in words on the back and in pictures on the front. The side panels are generally akin to those in the T205s minus the stats and Gold Borders.<br /><br />Other sets:<br /><br />I'm a Fan Craze fanatic --- wonderful portraits on relatively large cards of the dawn of the 20th century. Personal favorites are the cards of Wagner (with the famous protrait), AL President/Founder Ban Johnson (lloking every bit as self-important as he was in his day); Ned Hanlon (Hall of Fame Manager looking quite ingenous and shown as a Manager unlike the earlier cards depicting him); ill-facted NL President Pulliam, who died by his own hand; and Jake Beckley looking very nineteenth century; and finally, Sam Crawford so fortuitously on the "Triple" card (Crawford is the all-time leader in Triples and unless things change quite a bot his record should stand for the forseeable future.)

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>Not gonna let it die. I still need to kick Lee upside the head and get his vote along with all you other malingerers. Vote!!! After all is said and don, you can't bitch if you didn't vote. <br /><br />Jay<br><br>I saw weird stuff in that place last night. Wierd, strange, sick, twisted, eerie, godless, evil stuff. And I want in.

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Posted By: <b>leon</b><p>as type-card-collector it's hard to have "favorites" as I like about a hundred of them....but here goes<br /><br />19th century:<br />1. Four Base Hits<br />2. Peck and Snyder<br /><br /><br />tobacco:<br />1. T231 Fans Cigarettes <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br />2. T216<br /><br />e-cards:<br />1. E94-overprints<br />2. E-unc (too many too list all....orange borders, J=K, Big Eater etc..)<br /><br /><br />misc cards:<br />1. D359<br />2. H-unc's (very varied assortment)<br /><br />later<br />leon<br /><br /><br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Lee Behrens</b><p>Gee, I didn't know I was so popular. I have not read this thread until now. My brother usually doesn't have anything worth a crap to say so I ignore him alot. <br />As for our "cousin" Josh, I think he still needs to pay his Behrens Net 54 intiation fee, until then he is not in the "Circle". <img src="/images/happy.gif" height=14 width=14><br /><br />19th Century:<br /><br />1)Goodwin Champs<br />2)Schrapps, can't believe they are not on ayone elses list<br /><br />Tobacco:<br /><br />1)T202<br />3)T205<br /><br />Candy Cards<br /><br />1) E95<br />2) Too many are ugly to pick 2<br /><br />Misc<br /><br />1)M101-2<br />2)T330-2 Piedmont Art Stamps<br /><br />Since I was in such high demand does my vote coount twice?<br />

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>No, your vote counts half since you put a t-set in the Misc catagory. I'm not holding out any more hope that your IQ will ever be higher than 79 :-p<br /><br />Jay<br><br>I saw weird stuff in that place last night. Wierd, strange, sick, twisted, eerie, godless, evil stuff. And I want in.

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Posted By: <b>gdporter</b><p><P>N: N162 Goodwin<BR> N173 Cabinets</P><P>T: T-205<BR> T-3</P><P>E: E-223 G&B (is this a permitted choice for this category?)</P><P>MISC: 1933 Goudey<BR> 1934-36 Diamond Stars</P>

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Posted By: <b>Gilbert Maines</b><p>Yeah, E-223 !<br /><br />Those are the e-cards I like. Put me down for them (unless I forefeited my chance by admitting that I hadn't found any e-cards that I liked). Ive never seen an e-223 in person, but who knows?<br /><br />Gil

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Posted By: <b>runscott</b><p>19th century:<br />1. N162<br />2. N172<br /><br />tobacco:<br />1. t206<br />2. t205<br /><br />e-cards:<br />1. e95<br />2. e96<br /><br /><br />misc cards:<br />1. 1934 Goudey<br />2. 1933 Goudey<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Sean Coe</b><p> 19th Century- 1. N28<br /> 2. N162<br /><br /> T Cards- 1. T206<br /> 2. T205<br /><br /> Candy Cards- 1. E95<br /> 2. E254 Colgan Chips<br /><br /> Misc.- 1. 1933 Goudey<br /> 2. Diamond Star<br /><br />Honorable Mention- 1. Old Judge<br /> 2. T3 Turkey Reds

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Posted By: <b>JimB</b><p>19th Century:<br />1. Goodwin Champions<br />2. N28<br /><br />Tobacco:<br />1.T206<br />2.T205<br /><br />E Cards<br />1. E93<br />2. 1915 Cracker Jack<br /><br />Misc.<br />1. D304

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Posted By: <b>Julie</b><p>Sorry; it just slipped out...maybe it will inspire more people to vote, even if they vote for Old Judge in first place!

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>Julie, thanks for championing this thread and to everyone that has cast a vote so far. I'll let this run until the end of the week and then tabulate everything.<br /><br />I'd love to have at least 50 people voting. If you are a lurker, what better place to make a first vote than a thread like this. There is no expertise needed, just a personal opinion.<br /><br />Jay<br><br>I saw weird stuff in that place last night. Wierd, strange, sick, twisted, eerie, godless, evil stuff. And I want in.

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Posted By: <b>Kenny Cole</b><p>Favorite Sets<br /><br />19th Century<br /><br />N162;<br />N167<br /><br />Tobacco<br /><br />T206;<br />T204<br /><br />E Cards<br /><br />E107;<br />1914/15 Cracker Jacks<br /><br />Misc<br /><br />1923/24 Aguilitas Segundas (Cuban issue with lots of portraits of famous negro leaguers in it);<br /><br />1949/50 Toleteros (Puerto Rican issue with lots of negro league stars in it)<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Glen V</b><p>N162 Goodwin<br />N43 Allen & Ginter<br /><br />E145 Crackerjacks<br />E221 Bishop & Co.<br /><br />T204 Ramly<br />T227 Series of Champions<br /><br />L1 Leathers<br />S81 Silks

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Posted By: <b>Pcelli60</b><p>N172...T205...E145...Thanks for asking..

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Posted By: <b>Eric</b><p>T:<br />#1: T222 Fatima<br />#2: T227 Series of Champs<br /><br />E:<br />#1: E271 Darby<br />#2: E145 Cracker Jacks<br /><br />Misc:<br />#1: Voskamps<br />#2: Lections<br /><br />and "R"..<br />#1: R317 Uncle Jacks<br />#2: R319 Goudey '33s<br /><br />

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Posted By: <b>Julie</b><p><img src="http://www.network54.com/Realm/jphotos/042502_2178_1220_prv.gif">

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Posted By: <b>jay behrens</b><p>This is the last call for votes. I really would like to get to 50 voters. So far there have been about 45. I will post the results late Tuesday night after I get home from work (2am cst).<br /><br />Jay<br><br>I saw weird stuff in that place last night. Wierd, strange, sick, twisted, eerie, godless, evil stuff. And I want in.

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Posted By: <b>ockday</b><p>19th... 1-N162, 2-N172<br />tobacco...1-t207, 2-t205<br />caramel...1-e90-1, 2-e98<br />misc... 1-goudey sport kings, 2-1932 us caramel<br /><br />