PDA

View Full Version : Is This a Ghost Print (T206)


Archive
09-24-2004, 04:56 PM
Posted By: <b>Brian H</b><p>I just got this card back from PSa. I was expecting a MK for the Bluish color lines in the bottom right hand side of the card. <br />I am thinking it might be a ghost print because the lines extend into the White border under the picture.<br /><br />what do you think?<br /><br />&lt;img&gt;<img src="http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0QQDxApcTn4PTN!W1NbUj3xY*IBVwDlsM1QWUT3cYMnWZzGRQ! hcxEj6*CqTcl1dxcs8AYP0IMRxUitKhpcd!wAJ311k1KCVr7wm OC22pcvw/lot3.jpg">?dc=4675490494066455924&SSImageQuality=Full&lt;/img&gt;<br />&lt;img&gt;<img src="http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0RwAdA68UBNSjpeKJJy8cSkLsMVKmKLOE7Lpd974LFUMWL8Nlq 3EDDuhQSvgsDCN!0xmhcDKjxQec8o2ahJNnSPC3!HdxMHPeIAl vUhZVQXI/lot3%20001.jpg">?dc=4675490494048910187&SSImageQuality=Full&lt;/img&gt;

Archive
09-24-2004, 10:20 PM
Posted By: <b>dan mckee</b><p>Ghostly! should be a 4 - VG/EX

Archive
09-25-2004, 09:34 AM
Posted By: <b>qualitycards</b><p>BRIAN - A "MK" qualifier is for a pencil or pen mark that someone added after the card was produced. The qualifier that you might have rec'd is a "PD" which is Print Defect. The original submitter may have chosen "No Qualifiers" so instead of a PSA-4pd, it was assigned a straight PSA-3 grade.

Archive
09-25-2004, 09:55 AM
Posted By: <b>Brian</b><p>I am the original submiter of this card. I also submited a T206 with a stamp mark on it and it got the MK <br /><br />what are your opinions on tihs one? shoud it have gotten the MK?<br />Should it be a 4?<br />Is it a Ghost?

Archive
09-25-2004, 10:02 AM
Posted By: <b>John/z28jd</b><p>Ive collected t206 errors in the past and wouldnt consider this a ghost.I cant tell from the scan whether its actually a print defect or a mark made by pen/marker but i would not call it a ghost by any means.A ghost would be a card with the image of the same or other player somewhere on the card where it shouldnt be.Ive seen all types of this ranging from front to back of card,and next to the player or upside down.<br /><br />www.t206museum.com has pictures of what is recognized as ghost cards.I also consider cards that have backs reversed on the front to be ghost cards,and they also are referred to as wet stack cards by error collectors

Archive
09-25-2004, 11:08 AM
Posted By: <b>Dave</b><p>As far as I can tell, real ghosts take a few different forms:<br /><br />1. Wet ink transfers from the front of one card to the back of a card stacked on top of it during printing. The ghost is on the back.<br /><br />2. One color layer is so badly mis-registered that it appears as a separate image. This could be offset or upside-down. It also could be a different player.<br /><br />Your card has neither of these, but instead could be a vaiation of #1 but where wet ink transferred from the back of one card to the front of one under it when stacked during printing. This is just a defect.<br /><br />What is the back on this card? You could look a the back (especially if it's blue) and try to find this pattern. Remember that it will be a mirror image.<br /><br />So, no MK is due, which to me is a kiss of death on quality. This is most likely a minor print defect, which (maybe) was factored into the grade.